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One acts like a 'Know it all' and the other 'wants to learn it all' (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by TehBamski@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Watching Matt Dillahunty can be infuriating sometimes with how dense the callers can be. Dogma and indoctrination are a hell of a drug.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You're not in here supplying people with a way to harmonize conflicting belief systems, because science isn't a fucking belief system.

Correct. I am also not trying to do so. I am literally saying the two have nothing to do with one another and that's why using one to argue against the other it pointless.

The people disagreeing with me seem to really want to use science to argue with religion, which ignores the fact that that's not how science works, it is not a useful persuit for science, and religion doesn't care.

[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Science does not seek to argue against religion, it seeks nothing, it's just a word to describe a system for finding truth if that's what you're after.

That is what I said, yes. Glad we're on the same page.

So the reason you're seeing people using science to attack religion

The thing we both agreed science is not meant for. Go on.

is because YOU STARTED IT BY EQUATING THEM.

The meme was equating them. I pointed out the pointlessness of that.

you are approaching from a dense mindset that science is a "group" actively out trying to fight religion

Strange, I am seeing so many replies treating Religion as a "group" actively out to fight science. Can we agree that both of these are wrong?

it's because this is a tired trope

Science and religion have nothing in common is a tried trope? Because a lot of the response I'm getting seem the think they have something in common and anything relevant to say about one another.

You don't need religion

Never said you did.

religion says you need it and it actively tries to attack other systems for understanding the world

And here we go treating Religion as a "group" again. I thought that was bad? Or is it only bad if you think someone is doing that to Science?

science broadly wouldn't care one way or another if it disappeared tomorrow or if more people started believing in God

I agree. That's what I've been saying. What are you arguing with specifically?

I cannot fathom why you're being so self-contradictory in your efforts here.

What contradictions? You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I have been arguing for religion at some point. I have done no such thing. I have simply said "arguing science vs religion makes no sense and is a waste of time" and for some reason you assumed that meant I must be arguing for religion when I have done no such thing.(Other than pointing out religion is not a monolithic group I suppose. Pointing out the flaws in a claim is hardly the same arguing for the opposing viewpoints)