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"Oh another dumb liberal"
"Liberal opinion disregarded"
Juxtapose the term liberal with tankie for a moment in usage alone.
If being called liberal is interpreted as above, it is likely those are the same sentiments expressed when calling someone or something tankie, no?
Yes. I don't know where the notion that tankies don't do that sort of thing comes from when they do it all the time in their own way. Sure, they're not accusing anyone of being a Liberal bot sent by Soros because it's absurd, but they approximate with what they can to discredit who they don't like. They're only human.
Literally just explained the difference. Not valuing someone's opinion is not the same as saying that they must be lying about what they believe because nobody could ever possibly just believe different things from you.
It's fine if you want to make a distinction, but the pairing along with the outright dismissiveness is precisely what I mean, though. Being dismissive because of branding someone a label is my point, even though the person they were referring to is not liberal--me.
I'm glad you don't, but that's not what I saw.
If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
I'm not about to go hunt down a links from a year ago on a banned account in some other instance I abhor, or comb through petty nonsense to find examples for you. You can believe me or not, I don't mind, and I will do the same. Besides, you already stated that if someone looks like a lib you're gonna call it a lib "even if they deny the label", and that's what I mean about these personal attacks.
Sorry, but I'm not going to take the word of someone who once said, "I love Donald Trump because he reminds me of Hitler, who did nothing wrong." Now, I definitely saw you say that once, but I'm not going to comb through a bunch of petty nonsense to find the link to it.
Again, I already explained the distinction. I never said that "tankies" won't write off the opinions of people they don't respect (everyone does this, as I explained with the example of an obvious fascist), what I've said is that we don't deny that you believe the things you say you do, that you secretly believe something else, the thing that you just explicitly claimed to have seen but can't provide a single example of.
So your answer to me replying in good faith is to double down and reply in bad faith to drive a petty point because I refuse to do some fool's errand for you? Yeah, that's not gonna fly.
You can have your distinction but I'm not making one. I'm not operating under that framework you setup. I'm saying something one thing and you're trying to shoehorn in the conversation into some other thing.
And, as I've already explained, I won't.
We've run our course. Good day.
For anyone following along, the original claim was, "I don’t understand the constant liberal need to assume everyone who disagrees with you is acting in bad faith," and they responded "I see the same behavior with tankies," then went on to talk about a completely different behavior and are now trying to pretend that that other behavior was the thing being discussed and not a completely irrelevant tangent they brought up to draw a false comparison.
I made it perfectly clear what kind of dismissive attacks I meant and even gave examples of I was talking about which you admitted to perpetrating, but you're here splitting hairs and making petty demands so that you come out clean as if I care. And now you're rewriting a thread from your POV in an attempt to win over people by insulting their intelligence while you're thirsting for some insignificant victory in an inconsequential thread. Amusingly weird behavior, if you ask me. lol
Again, general "dismissiveness" is not what the conversation was ever about. Everyone dismisses certain viewpoints, I never disputed that.
And that's not quite my point either, but ok. You've either not taken a moment to understand what I mean or you're willingly misinterpreting it going after the low hanging fruit. Whichever it is, please stop trying to rewrite the thread. It's quite disingenuous. Thanks.
"Rewriting the thread" by literally quoting exactly what was said.
That's literally not what was said though. Lol
STOP REWRITING THE THREAD!!!1!!1!1!!
I mean, I see that behavior whether I disagree with them or not, and not because they're tankies but because they're people. It's not the gotcha you think it is, honestly. lol
Also, quite the non-sequitur there. You're really reaching for that win, huh. But you gotta reach harder.