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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 116 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

So much for the claims I read that it would be a more open platform. I can’t see how this possibly benefits the users.

The product is ~~not open source and it~~ is mainly controlled by a company through its servers and proprietary components. They own it. Even if they use some open protocols. They are about as open as OpenAI — they are not.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 61 points 1 week ago (20 children)

This is technically incorrect (the best kind of incorrect?). Bluesky is open source, with the exception of the discover feed algorithm, which they claim must remain secret to prevent it being manipulated. There are open-source replacements for that feed available, so it's open enough that it is theoretically possible to spin up a Bluesky replacement, albeit impossibly expensive.

Coming at it from another angle though, the product in any commercial social media product is you, so in that sense you're right: the product is not open source. Either way, open source code is not some panacea that erases all risk of commodifying its users. Bluesky is a great example because while it is open source, that in absolutely no way prevents them from tracking their users.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There’s nothing to prevent someone from spinning up a lemmy or mastodon instance and tracking users either.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They'd get defederated quickly.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most likely. That’s if people knew about. You could do it secretly.

Though I wonder if you were open about it, if people would accept it. Just say “hey, this instance doesn’t ask for donations, but we track and sell your info.” Maybe some users would be okay with that.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they can't sell your info (from remote instances) without you agreeing to a privacy policy. Now, that most likely wouldn't stop them, but it makes it harder legally.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remote instances won’t have your IP or email, and other usage trend data. So that info could only be obtained by this hypothetical tracking instance. As for any remote content on other instances, that can just be scraped by anyone. You wouldn’t even need an account or instance to get that data.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

I know, sure thats just what threads did.

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