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[–] riskable@programming.dev 144 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Reminder: The Bill of Rights applies to all persons living or residing in the United States. Whether or not you're a citizen is irrelevant. Green card, visa, no visa, etc doesn't matter.

Everyone gets freedom of speech in the US. Everyone.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The Trump administration is operating on a "it's not legal/constitutionally protected until a judge says it is" and if they punish you before the judge says you don't deserve punishment, oh well!

So in this case, because we don't have any case law saying that deportation is an infringement of the 1st amendment, Trump gets to say it isn't until a judge says otherwise. At which point maybe Trump will obey the court, or (probably) not.

It's bullshit and backwards, but that's what we're up against.

[–] ernest314@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

and if they punish you before the judge says you don't deserve punishment, oh well!

the horrifying thing is on multiple occasions, they've (we've? it's our government) attempted to use this logic to execute people. Some of which we know for sure are innocent.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago

They don't give a rat's ass about freedom of speech. They never did. And the 2nd amendment for them was about being brownshirts with their own personal firearms.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

True, with a "but". The secretary of state has the near unquestioned right to declare that a permanent resident alien represents a threat to the nation.

Let's hope nobody abuses that!