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“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look I can't help but feel deceived.

Every single time the death penalty was brought up, nitrogen asphyxiation was touted as a humane alternative. There were always claims that it would be painless, and that the process itself was extremely well understood. It was usually further implied that the reason states don't do this was because death penalty advocates wanted the prisoner to suffer as long as possible.

Yet the second nitrogen asphyxiation became a viable option, the very same people touting it lined up against it. Suddenly it was completely unproven. Suddenly it was wholly inhumane and inflicted suffering.

It's so incredibly obvious that the push for nitrogen asphyxiation was at least in part a bad faith argument by people who are philosophically opposed to the death penalty.

Being philosophically opposed to the death penalty is a valid opinion, but the dishonesty makes me much less inclined for me to take these people seriously.

I don't think I'm unique in that regard. Nobody likes being deceived or lied to.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What if you're right though? Isn't then a perfectly good time to lie? If you know for sure that the death penalty is evil (which doesn't seem too big a leap given the facts), then it's wrong not to lie to people to get them to stop it. Otherwise you'd be saying that your own morality outweighs the humanity of others. If it results in no death penalty, it was a good action. People act like the ends aren't justifying the means in 99.99% of cases. It is notable specifically when the ends do not justify the means. If the ends are preventing murder, and the means is lying, there is no question whether lying is justified.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If a person lies to me I'm not going to believe them next time they attempt to engage with me.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems like a pretty small price to pay to prevent murder. In fact, I'd go so far as to say you're a bad person if you're not willing to pay that price.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not a bad person for not wanting to be lied to.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

True, but they're not a bad person for lying to you.