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A high-profile dispute between Scarlett Johansson and the maker of ChatGPT has brought the subject of AI voices to the fore, but many others in the entertainment industry are affected too. Jennifer Hale and Linsay Rousseau say fair treatment for voice actors is important. (May 23, 2024)

from The Canadian Press

This commentary is from labor disputes last year, I wanted to post it here so that people would remember whose jobs they are trying to steal by pushing fake ai VO. We don't have to push corpo propaganda here. This is our space, err, [Chris Remington, alyaza [they/she], TheRtRevKaiser, gyrfalcon, rs5th, coldredlight, Leigh, TheRtRevKaiser]'s space. I don't think any of them are corporations, but maybe I am wrong?

Pushing AI propaganda is a bad move for infinite reasons, here are four:

  • it's usually an attack on workers

  • the industry steals directly from artists

  • these companies are massive polluters/ emitters

  • it makes you look like a rube

*edit 1 According to the laws of debate, one of you must reveal whichever podcast has you parroting comparisons of VO artists to horse workers *edit 2 Horse husbandry is also a major craft and fine art that ought not be mocked, whether or not it is useful to capitalists

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

it's usually an attack on workers

No. It's innovation. As was horse carriages and other technologies/jobs being out of date

the industry steals directly from artists

Valid Argument!! Training AI based on existing voice actor recordings is true valid concern. But this won't stop the industry with eventually having really good vocaloids, or finding people willing to donate their voice or sell it on the cheap.

these companies are massive polluters/ emitters

Bullshit. There's no reason any AI training needs to happen at 100% duty cycle. It can run straight off pure solar with no batteries. Trains only when the sun shines. That said, the power source is irrelevant to the argument. Not all nations rely on fossil fuels.

it makes you look like a rube

Whining that society is moving forward and a old job is being obsoleted makes you look like a rube. Want to take your voice acting to the next level? Do something like the Critical Role folks did and adapt.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Not all nations rely in fossil fuels

Please list some countries that run on 100% renewables that are massively building AI datacenters, I'll wait. Meanwhile, consider that useful things could be done with the energy required for AI. Even other uses for AI would be better, like automating menial labor or detecting cancer. Instead AI voices replace and devalue human artistic expression, not because they are better, but because they are cheaper.

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