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There is nothing wrong with not being human. The problem here is people like Vance then think it gives them the right to do whatever they like to us.
Just because some{one/many} isn't human doesn't mean they do not deserve rights, autonomy, respect and life.
This is what these discussions always seem to fail to consider, so we thought we should point it out.
Of course people who identify as human should not be stripped of that label for other reasons, but for those who don't... well, we deserve just as many rights as those who do.
Human supremacy is just as awful as any other supremacy.
I don't think you understand. This book is using the same terminology Nazis used to refer to the Jewish people (and anyone else they didn't like)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch
Okay. Given that then your original comment seems to imply people like Vance and/or the writers should not be considered human (or should be considered Jewish or others nazis didn't like and thus less than human according to the nazis), and that being considered 'unhuman' is bad.
Unless you meant to imply that the book should be considered only for those that are 'unhuman' (or Jewish etc, if Vance and the writers are Jewish or other things the nazis didn't like) which seems odd for a book explicitly against them?
We're not exactly sure what other things your comment would be driving at.
This isn't a criticism per se, we just don't understand your point.