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Maybe we shouldn't fuck around with not voting or voting 3rd party in presidential elections so the dumbest among us don't get to keep calling the shots.
When the vote is either voting for status quo or voting for something worse, that's not a fair vote, it's one made under duress
Voting under duress seems like a better option than not voting though
Except the status quo loses. We can argue all day that status quo is better than the alternative but that doesn't win elections. There is no amount of pressure or bullying or arguing that makes that a winning election strategy.
At that point, it's the fault of the status quo party for not moving off that status quo. It's the fault of party leadership for not shifting to progressive change and instead saying "steady as she goes"
Sure, yeah, whatever, place blame where you want to. Doesn't change the fact that "getting to vote" is better than "not getting to vote"
Brother in Christ, how many elections do the Dems need to lose before it's their fault for running the same status quo handbook? Do you actually give a shit about trying to fix anything, place blame on the decision makers who have a choice, or so you just want to grand stand on a vague general population and rage against human nature resulting in low voter turnout that literally nobody can solve? We can be mad together that people didn't come out to vote, but ultimately we can't change that. So what the fuck do you want?
I think you misunderstand me. We likely aren't getting the chance to vote again. That's my point, that's it. I'm not trying to place blame, I'm not trying to fix anything, I'm not raging or grandstanding, I'm merely making a prediction. Which is that because Trump won the election, that's the last real election we'll have.
Well yes but that's the problem, we need to think outside the box, revolutions are seen as a thing of the past but maybe everyone could learn from the french
Someone hasn't read a history book it seems. Please, enlighten us about how that revolution turned out.
I believe Robespierre had lead a period of time known as the "reign of good times and normal vibes" where they all formed committees to talk out and mediate the the problems of the system they lived under.
I lol'd
Only someone with no knowledge of pre revolution France would say this.
The point is that a revolution didn't make things any better overall. It just sucked in different ways.
It ultimately gave us the ideals that would go on to end monarchism in Europe. It killed the French monarchy legitimacy until it was ultimately destroyed.
Once again, only if you know nothing about the French revolution would you say that.
So any revolution against aristocracy obviosly leads to a Bonaparte, is your theory huh. ok.
Yep, I made a blanket statement about every revolution that has ever existed... Of course I didn't say that, why are you putting words in my mouth? The French Revolution ended poorly for most in the following 40 years. That's what I said.
Did someone prevent you from voting in the primaries? Or running in the primaries if you didn't like the people running?
The candidates don't just magically appear on the ballot. What you're complaining about is "the majority of people didn't want something as progressive as I did so it was duress".
"I'm not getting my way so it's not fair" resonates about as much as "the election was stolen because my guy didn't win". Do you have the right to not vote at all? Sure. But then don't say a fucking thing when the world around you is collapsing becuase the other guy is inifnitely worse than what you were too proud or stubborn to vote for.
Progressives who refuse to vote for a moderate because "compromise is a four letter word" are as bad or worse than the tea party morons who started the republican party down the path of fascism.
I’m not saying you’re wrong when I say that 70 million dumb fucks still voted for this, allegedly.
Maybe the dem leadership shouldnt fuck around with acting like republican lites while committing crimes against humanity also while expecting to run and win as a democrat?!?
Maybe they shouldnt be that arrogant and stupid, and maybe you shouldnt carry their water. Maybe, maybe maybe.
Stop chastising people for not compromising their morals by voting for a party they don't fully agree with.
Voting 3rd party is not the same thing as not voting; but god forbid somebody disagree with you I guess
Also the fuck won by a landslide anyways
pretty sure the only votes that elect a president are votes for that president.
everyone who failed to stop it, including those who voted with you, allowed it to happen. and you are allowing it to continue. step up and stop it.
Sorry bud. But voting against it isn't allowing it to happen. It's the opposite. I'm not going to take responsibility for dumbfucks and racists that I vote against.
It sounds like you're asking me to violently oppose them. How about you violently oppose them? Lot easier said than done.
you allowed it, and you continue to allow it. calling others names won't change that.
God forbid any candidate for president ever take any responsibility at all for their own loss. Its not like they made a single decision leading to that loss, right.
This is ancient history now bud, and history wont be kind to your ilk. Beyond that, your shtick is so tired and boring.
You mean reasonable people that voted against this stupid fucking timeline?
Not exactly sure what you're implying. It kind of sounds like you're just whining into the void.
Says the long post, all caps and triple excalamtion quote commenter. Ok buddy. Lets be a little more self aware, eh?
Dude, shut the fuck up. Obviously people know that a 3rd party president will never make it to office; and that's not the fucking point. Its about voicing your opinion; and to blame trump winning on the people who voted third party when it was clearly because the Democratic party fumbled and put forth a candidate that was not elected is incredibly disingenuous. This "your either with us or against us" bullshit is part of why the Democrats lost 2024
Then what's the point, dumbfuck?
What's the point of voting for someone that can't win, and therefore, can't accomplish anything?
Why wouldn't I? Voting 3rd party for president is STUPID AS FUCK, and all it accomplished was putting Trump, an anti-democratic felon rapist, closer to the Oval Office. Any dipshit gambling with our future to vote 3rd party in a presidential race deserves to be called what they are. A dumbfuck.
Well you see, the point is to voice that you do not wish to support either party. There is no "gambling" here, because there is no shot in hell I'm going to vote between a Nazi and an unelected figurehead for a political party that promises they care about me or my people when in reality they just pretend they do just to get us to vote for them.
Positively fucking crazy how I'm evil for not voting for (effectively) the same administration that allowed Texas to put razor wire in a river that is firmly Mexican territory. Positively fucking crazy that I didn't want to vote for that, my fucking bad.
I'm sorry for not disregarding my morals so you can feel better about yourself for helping to elect some shitstain who will preach acceptance and tolerance while removing Palestine from the map; I'm sorry for not wanting to vote for someone who will do fucking nothing to change the broken system that got us here in the first place.
The point of voting third party is to voice your discontent with the system. I'm sorry if me refusing to say "yeah I don't like Nazis" loud enough by voting for someone I don't agree with hurts YOUR chances of looking good by "helping get the good guy into office" you virtue signalling prick
Go fuck yourself.
this is just misinformation.