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[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can, so long as you acknowledge that them taking an anti Israel stance would most likely also lead to Trump due to other democrats feeling alienated, and thus, a Trump administration that will do even more genocide.

The sad truth just seems to be that not even among democrats that position is a majority. No matter what you voted for, it would most likely not have changed that. The US needs like 20-40 years of progressive change before the majority is ready to take on such positions, and the way to ensure that timeline becomes longer and longer, is by making choices that undercut even small steps there.

Don't vote for the lesser evil, vote for the path towards that eventual US where your opinion is held by the majority.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

vote for the path towards that eventual US where your opinion is held by the majority.

Been trying that for decades and it hasn't worked.

The only reason I started voting for the Dems in the first place was because they were anti-war, now they are pro-war so things have moved backwards

[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's indeed a shame that the Dems regressed on that issue, and that in the current system you have no alternative choice that can actually win, but sometimes holding a line is all you can do as a single person. The propaganda that the republicans are producing is exactly designed to make sure your position never holds a majority, as with the right stimulation, most people can be made to believe that being pro-war makes you a patriot and a 'true' American. And they've been winning for a long time on that front too.

You can't vote that propaganda away completely with the current democrats, that's true as well. But it's incredibly hard to resist when that propaganda is entangled and mixed in with staying informed about the government and society. Things aren't lost, but if they were hard to impossible before, it didn't make it any easier like this, even progressive minds can be taught to reject progressiveness, so long as you get to them early and overwhelmingly enough.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

True, this is an evil country. USA delenda est

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been trying that for decades and it hasn’t worked.

ok great news, you can like, do political ground work, today, for free even. Just go outside and talk to people, im sure there are even organizations that will assist you and provide you material to go and do it for them. It's not hard.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The money is on the side of pro-war politics, this isn't about what 1 person is capable of its a systemic problem

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

man i wonder how you could possibly go about deterring that mechanism, man i sure wonder.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, I'll just become a billionaire, no prob

i mean, that's one option. Too bad you don't like, interact with people regularly or something. There's no data or research that suggests that you can influence the opinion of people by simply talking to them.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t vote for the lesser evil

unless voting for the lesser evil is that path that leads to that point. Because otherwise you're stuck voting third party, which is a meme. Or not voting at all, and look where that has gotten us thus far lmao.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voting for the lesser evil has also gotten us here

yeah and driving cars gets people into fatal auto accidents, great statement.