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Google says replacing C/C++ in firmware with Rust is easy (www.theregister.com)
submitted 2 years ago by lemmee_in@lemm.ee to c/programming@programming.dev
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Google recently rewrote the firmware for protected virtual machines in its Android Virtualization Framework using the Rust programming language and wants you to do the same, assuming you deal with firmware.

In a write-up on Thursday, Android engineers Ivan Lozano and Dominik Maier dig into the technical details of replacing legacy C and C++ code with Rust.

"You'll see how easy it is to boost security with drop-in Rust replacements, and we'll even demonstrate how the Rust toolchain can handle specialized bare-metal targets," said Lozano and Maier.

Easy is not a term commonly heard with regard to a programming language known for its steep learning curve.

Nor is it easy to get C and C++ developers to see the world with Rust-tinted lenses. Just last week, one of the maintainers of the Rust for Linux project - created to work Rust code into the C-based Linux kernel - stepped down, citing resistance from Linux kernel developers.

"Here's the thing, you're not going to force all of us to learn Rust," said a Linux kernel contributor during a lively discussion earlier this year at a conference.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of the deep-pocketed founding members of the Rust Foundation says it's easy. I'm surprised.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Clearly Rust is a conspiracy.

[–] lysdexic@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Clearly Rust is a conspiracy.

Anyone in software development who was not born yesterday is already well aware of the whole FOMO cycle:

  1. hey there's a shiny new tool,
  2. it's so fantastic only morons don't use it,
  3. oh god what a huge mistake I did,
  4. hey, there's a shiny new tool,
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah, because the new tools are never actually better, right? If condescending luddites like you had your way we'd still be living in the literal stone age. At every step of the way, people like you have smugly said that the older, more established ways of doing things were good enough and new ways were just a fad that would die out.

Your favorite language was dismissed as fad when it was new. High level languages were a fad. Computing was a fad. Electricity was a fad. See a pattern?

Nice job projecting with the "only morons" bit, BTW, when it is in fact you who started off by denigrating people whose preferences are different from yours.

[–] Spore@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I assume that you do know that tools improve objectively in the cycle and are making a joke on purpose.

[–] lysdexic@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you had a grasp on the subject you'd understand that it takes more than mindlessly chanting "tools" to actually get tangible improvements, and even I'm that scenario often they come with critical tradeoff.

It takes more than peer pressure to make a case for a tool.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There you go again flinging insults at anyone who disagrees with you.