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[–] Hlodwig@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol, France gets whole country paralyzed for 2cents tax increase on gas. US put their flag upside down after the government is litteraly stripping all their liberties from them... Pathetic...

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm asking as someone who legit doesn't know, how does the French government respond to protesters? In the US at least we get shot at, maimed, felony records that lock you out of the job market forever, all kinds of stuff. Protesting in the US can be a life or death thing. Striking is also very difficult at a scale big enough to matter to the government because the US is enormous. If not enough people strike for critical mass then companies start firing everyone and any fines are just operating expenses. It's not impossible, we've done it before, but it's not like we're struggling to resist for funsies

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Well the distance from one side of Paris to the other is 11.5km.

The distance from the furthest point in France to paris is like 723km.

Washington DC is 22km at it's widest point.

The furthest point in the U.S. to Washington DC is 7,800 I'm.

In the lower 48 only, if you could walk in a straight line, it would be nearly 4000km. Driving it's an even longer distance cause it ain't straight.

I don't know what the fuck you Europeans think the size and population density of the US is.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a whole lot of geography to say nothing.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

By that reasoning here in Canada resistance is futile and we can never according to geography protest in any way.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the lamest most pathetic American excuse I hear everytime. Or how about your population is ignorant and obese? And loves sucking off billionaires. Why the fuck do you have to protest in DC? God damn sick of how ignorant your comment is

The distance from the furthest point in France to paris is like 723km.

The furthest point in France is Wallis and Futuna which is 16000km from Paris.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The civil rights movement managed to organize a massive march on Washington in the early 1960s. It should be far easier to organize something similar or even larger with the current technology and larger population.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the leaders of the civil rights organization had amazing public speaking skills, were professors or church leaders, or otherwise people who had a voice.

AoC and Bernie are the two doing anything right now, and you better believe when they come here I'm going. But to say get off my ass and do something?

Good fucking luck having just anyone do that.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lack of democratic leadership is not a geographic problem. In your previous comment you claimed that it was because of distance that there were no large protests, but it's pretty obvious that those distances are not the reason.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they have the resources to do so. They aren't traveling for free, and it's not quick. It would be a two day trip for me to get to DC. The nearest place worth staging a protest is 6 hours away by car.

This isn't hard to grasp.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So why was it possible to organize such a protest in 1963 but not in 2025?

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The civil rights movement started 8 years prior, and it was almost entirely focused locally in Alabama & Tennessee. Using today's technology to spread the word, great, you have people doing the same thing with the 50501. We're still limited by travel times.

Planning for the March on Washington started in 1961, and was largely supported by unions. Guess what has been absolutely decimated since then? A whole bunch of people talking online is great, but you still need proximity to organize shit like transporting a bunch of people to one location from another. They organized 250k people. 50501 can probably organize far more, but it will take longer even with instant communication.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One USA metropolitan area has as many as many people in it as many small countries. All these excuses that you're making as to why there are no large protests because of American exceptionalism, they just sound hollow. Protesting or not comes down to people and ATM there seems to be a severe lack of high level activist pro democracy leadership.

Edit: I do appreciate your answer about it taking 2 years to prepare that march, that's new info for me. But even then, I'd expect pro democracy protest everywhere and the Washington DC metropolitan area (or other densely populated areas) shouldn't need to depend on further away regions to get large numbers to turn up.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

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