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[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Harris needs to skewer the Republicans with the dirtiest shit imaginable that Sanders isn't remotely capable of being, and then be normal after the win.

The issues Sanders cares about are important to resolve long term, but they will not win the election.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 75 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

People really need to drop this Insistence that progressive/leftist shit won't win an election. Even with Trumpism as the alternative, dems can't get a leg up because they think chasing trumpers further right will flip them - but trumpers are trump loyalists and even "normal" Republicans are all in. There's no votes for dems there, but they've completely lost their potential base playing this game. Nobody votes because our options are corporate far right or corporate mid right.

If Dems want to mobilize apathetic voters, bring the left vote in, AND flip some "traditional Republicans," they need to run on those policies that are largely popular like M4A and run a candidate with a track record of fighting for more progressive shit that people dont think will drop it all on day 1 like every other dem.

The problem is dems will take Trump over moving an inch to the left 10/10 times.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If anything, it's been proven time and time again that centrism doesn't win elections. Centrism is a strategy where you adopt it and hope your opponents just fuck up horribly. You're certainly not out to create a platform for change or chase votes. See the recent UK election for an example, the Tories collapsed but in actual numbers labour gained almost no ground. That's almost an impressive amount of walking in a victory.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Centrism delivered massive wins in the US in 2020, what are you talking about? Biden won over the Rust Belt.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The issues Sanders cares about are important to resolve long term, but they will not win the election.

But would get a very large portion of voters interested enough to vote in Nov. Lately most people in both sides (except MAGAs, them too braindead) is they are tired that the elite control everything, and while the Harris campaign might not turn the majority of Republicans, it may get the centrist and left energized that there might actually be change coming and vote.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The us does not need a president that can be taken down by a bad cold as say an 80 year old man

While there are people who can't get flood insurance because of climate change he takes money from big oil

Musk plans to spend hundreds of millions to help get trump elected when there a countless number of better ways to use it

I don't get it what did I say wrong? I just wanted to spitball some things she could say about trump