this post was submitted on 23 Feb 2025
56 points (80.4% liked)
MeanwhileOnGrad
2130 readers
68 users here now
"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"
Welcome to MoG!
Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether it be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users, as it handwaves their extremism.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post, rather than engaging in arguments that lack mutual agreement.
Brigading/Trolling — If you're here because this community was linked in another thread, please refrain from maliciously voting, commenting, or manipulating the post in any way. This includes alt accounts. All votes are public, and if you are found to be brigading, you will be banned. Good-faith and honest communication is an exception.
Tankies can explain their views, but may be criticised or challenged for them. Any minor infraction of the rules may result in a warning and possibly a temporary ban.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically last only 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction doubles the duration. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
I think there are malicious people on Lemmy who have learned to exploit tribal boundaries to get people on their side. People claiming to be vegan, or anarchist, or queer are three giant glaring examples of this. Once you've made the claim, you can come out of the gate with whatever bad-faith gibberish serves the purpose you're trying to accomplish, secure in the knowledge that a sizable amount of the people in that same tribe will go to bat for you because you're in the club.
(Also people claiming to be communist.)
I'm not saying that anyone professing to those things is a fake. Most people in all are clearly are being honest about it. I'm just saying that, even if someone's in your tribe, you need to look at what they're actually saying, and that it's okay not to support them even if they are wearing being-on-your-tribe on their sleeve to tempt you into being a good member of the tribe and backing them up on whatever action or belief they are currently about.
Tribalism is the stupidest thing ever. I remember seeing posts about Reddit meetups, advertising something by saying "support them, they're a redditor," etc, like using a given social media site somehow implied trust. It doesn't.
The same is true for political affiliations, gym memberships, or sports team preferences. Someone liking the same thing as you doesn't make them "better" than someone else, it just gives you something to talk about.
Yet look at how many people cite influencers, famous athletes, or politicians for things they have no expertise in. It's dumb. Why don't people think for themselves?
Honestly I don't care if someone is a communist. I think it way more important to put critical thought into your beliefs. Don't be a follower or to much of a idealist.