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Luigi Mangione, accused of murdering UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, is set to appear in a New York courtroom Friday for a hearing on evidence exchange and a potential trial date.

He faces state murder charges with a terrorism enhancement, carrying a life sentence without parole.

Mangione also faces federal charges, including one with a potential death penalty, and separate charges in Pennsylvania. His defense claims political bias in the case.

In a statement, Mangione thanked supporters for their letters from across the country and the world.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Terrorism, according to the United Nations General Assembly:

Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them.

Luigi certainly didn't bring the public into a state of terror, if anything quite the opposite - so I suppose the real question is do we class Health Insurance Executives politically as a group of people to incite terror onto?

I'd argue that a group of people who would happily sign away someone's life if it meant them getting richer don't deserve that kind of recognition, but I'd bet the courts will say yes because their rich friends want an example made of him.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes

A group such as healthcare CEOs, and the wealthy in general?

Not that I think he did it. But terrorism doesn't have to be directed at the public at large.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

New York state terrorism law is this:

S 490.25 Crime of terrorism.

  1. A person is guilty of a crime of terrorism when, with intent to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policy of a unit of government by intimidation or coercion, or affect the conduct of a unit of government by murder, assassination or kidnapping, he or she commits a specified offense.

https://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article490.php#p490.25

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, I think there's an argument that insurance parasites count as a civilian population

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

However, it's not at all clear to me that Mr. Mangione may have intended to intimidate or coerce the entire population is health care CEOs with his alleged actions. There's a decent-looking alternative theory of this case that he may have been just pissed with the one guy.

These facts will have to explored at trial if the state wants to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

If he even committed the alleged act at all 🤷

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Yup. It's a pretty open category so legally it's valid ... which sucks. :/

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The CEO was not a billionaire. So it's not billionaires as a group.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

That comes down to a question of what unit of government was the murder trying to influence. His target was pretty clearly United Healthcare itself, not any part of the government.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

I dont feel terror or endangered by CEO killing vigilantes (as long as they have good aim and dont cause collateral damage). I'm sure the rest of the general public also feels safer without these CEO psycopaths walking around.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Corporations are people here and they see this as terrorism because their managers do.

Whether a jury will sign off on the Citizens United view of the public as corporate citizens depends on how willing avg jurists are to rationalize the fiction.