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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"people that voted" is not a thing. you can't absolve the American people from this. 86 million people did not vote. in a two party system that's not a vote for neither; it's a vote for "I'm fine with both". so around 160 million people were A-OK with explicit fascism. that's a huge majority.

[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not voting and being okay with it are not the same. Voter disenfranchisement is a real thing. There where bomb threats, people removed from voting rolls, and copious amounts of propaganda. These things do not happen in a vacuum.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not including disenfranchisement. It's a big problem in the US, but it's not 86-million big. those who could vote and didn't are complicit.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the disenfranchised and non-counted mail in votes were counted there’s a high likelihood Trump would have lost the upper mid-west states that gave him the win. Georgia would have possibly been too close to call if not for voter suppression.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You're mostly wrong. That was the cause of a minority of non voters. The vast majority simply didn't care to vote.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not what that means at all, but Ok.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

yes it is.

we're holding a vote on whether to buy coke or pepsi for tonight's party of 40.

if only 5 people submit their preference, that means the 35 who saw the message but didn't bother responding are OK with either. they lose the right to complain at the party that they preferred the one that the 3-person "majority" didn't vote for.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

False equivalency of the highest level. Only a child or an idiot would think a democratic vote and a preference for coke/pepsi are the same. smh

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

what a dumb way to say it's your first time encountering an analogy.

but I knew by your comments that whatever analogy i might use you'd try to weasel or if it by saying that's different.

i chose pepsi and coke deliberately actually for this reason. most people normally prefer coke. but for is also on the bds list now, so it is a political vote involving genocide. would you look at that.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I don't care what you think. We have fascism now and it's your family and friends' fault. Possibly also your fault. Fuck you.