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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (5 children)

As someone who in an earlier era self-described as an unapologetic Apple fanboy, I’m surprised by how quickly and comprehensively they have flushed all that good will away. I was already critical of their increasingly visionless product strategy. And I had already tired of the repetitive, self-absorbed marketing. But, to see them capitulate to a fascist party on several symbolic points is too much. If they’re willing to fold on trivia like the Gulf of Mexico (in Maps), and fold on problematic platforms like Musk’s Twitter, then I have to assume every claim they make, (like their commitment to privacy) is equally hollow. JFC, I hate Apple so much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I hear you. Its painful to behold and feels like the end of en era. I think my old glasses tinted everything rose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I got my first iPhone in 2009. A 3GS. Since then I've had a 4S, 5, 6, XR, and 13 mini.

Two weeks ago I took delivery of a Google Pixel 9, onto which I immediately put de-Googled GrapheneOS.

16 years of iPhones, 18 years of Macs. My primary Mac is a 15" M2 Air, which, as soon as Apple drop macOS support for, will be getting Asahi and that'll be that. Apple are probably the least surprising, but certainly the most disappointing to me.

I just can't deal with big corps any more. They're all shithouse. All of them. Bit by bit I'm learning how to self host a bunch of tools that until now I've been paying for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It was easy to figure out that their marketing around privacy was complete bullshit. If you read their privacy policy (the current one or say one from ~10 years ago), it's pretty clear they give themselves the right to collect everything and do whatever they feel like with your data. Sure, it's all couched in comforting sounding language, but that's just a ruse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They also state your sensitive data "can not be read by Apple"... That's the kind of legalese that implies the surveillance state (anyone they grant access) can absolutely read your sensitive data.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

@WhatAmLemmy @Alphane_Moon it’s a searchable and well-known fact that about 10,000 times the government of the Netherlands asked Apple to handover the keys of a specific iCloud account. It’s also searchable in the database of the Dutch government in about 6600 cases per year(!) Apple does hand over these keys. In about 3000 cases Apple refuses to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@xenomor @cyrano I very much sympathise with you. I used to be unapologetic for everything Apple did. But the privacy washing really irks me. I’m a privacy hawk and either you do whatever you can to protect the privacy of your clients, or you don’t. There is hardly a sensible middle road.