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[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No names, no unit numbers, no way to definitively recognize any given individual at a glance?

So... hypothetically... someone who's not part of one of the active units, but who has the uniform, the ability to act the part, and the information required to make it happen, might be able to blend in with the oppressors during a military operation? Hmm.

o but pfft don't listen to me. I'm just a wild-talking stoner with ADHD

#stonerthoughts #hypothetical #justgirlythings #lol

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.today 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If someone's got all that, then they're active military members. Also, the squadron would instantly recognize you as a new face and you'd suddenly become the center of attention within minutes. Even if you have a convincing story, everyone wants to know where you sit in the chain of command. Hell, the way civilians stand would make you stick out.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sometimes, even active military members disagree with what they're being made to do. If multiple units interact for the first time, would a new face still stand out? What if a person isn't dressed the part long enough to even be spoken to? Or if someone in this scenario has military experience?

These questions are rhetorical, of course. I left the details open-ended in the first comment for a reason - I don't know what exactly is going to happen every minute in the coming future. But, I can imagine scenarios occurring where lacking immediate and accurate ID of an individual in uniform can be taken advantage of. That's all.

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.today 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going without identifying markings isn't anything new. OSI & special forces operate like that all the time already. Every single military member is going to have a CAC card and generally you'd be integrated with some unit. Outsiders stick out because no one seems to interact with them or know them. Military members are trained to identify and call out people that don't belong. In the air force the saying used is "every airman is a sensor". Basically, civilians, even if wearing the uniform correctly (hard to do) stick out because their mannerisms are all wrong. The way you put away/put on your cover (hat) looks weird if you haven't done it thousands of times.

Active military members are accounted for. You can't just "pop off to the Mexican border real quick".

I just don't really see the scenario that you're trying to insinuate.

You make strong points. Thank you for providing that insight.

[–] TigerWolfe@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I literally have every piece of issued flight gear I was given, including my helmet and O2 hook up... I've been retired for 12 years. They don't take it back and give it to someone else when you leave.

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you've been retired 12 years, then we served at the same time... It also means that your uniform (ABU) is no longer in service. Even if the ABU was still in service, id have a lot of work to do before I could blend in again... And I'm sure you would as well 😂

[–] TigerWolfe@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I wore flight suits, mostly... But my point was that if someone had served recently they'd still have all their gear. The gear isn't the hard part of the OPs proposal.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a person from a military family, they'd clock you instantly. Once you live among military people, you begin to be able to spot who is or isn't military instantly. Even not being in the military myself, I can almost always at least guess their branch and get within a rank or 2. I've never seen my dad not get branch and exact rank within a couple seconds of talking to someone

[–] fartknocker@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

On the other hand, I am a disabled adult who has never served or even been eligible for military service and yet I am still asked a handful of times a year 20 years after the last traumatic event I experienced if I have served, and with what branch. It's not always a sure thing. Traumatized neurodivergent people get close enough to fool some.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This comment is a delight.