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"Press with both hands"

...just when you thought this timeline couldn't get much weirder.

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Similar to a lot of other highly effective attacks, its also a war crime ☹️

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What exactly makes an attack on devices that were exclusively used by members of Hezbollah a war crime?

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The indiscriminate detonations killed many civilians including children.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incorrect premise. A pager is an ordinary consumer electronic device that can and did find its way into innocent hands.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not this one. Israel created a shell company that sold these particular pagers only to Hezbollah (reportedly at a profit). Neither did Hezbollah buy these in random shops nor were they ever distributed to random shops. The network they used was also exclusively created by and for Hezbollah, not any civilians, so even if civilians had wanted to use these devices, they would not have been able to. Hezbollah bought them in bulk and distributed them to their members, believing they would be a safe way to communicate without tracking, since most pagers are one-way devices.

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, I wasn't there, but I read that it did hurt some people who weren't directly associated with the group. Some children and a medic, apparently?

[–] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, this is the most insulting accusation you could make. Is my writing style really this awful?

I'm not. This user name is decades old. I think I first started using it around 2003-2005. If you're willing to dig, you can find things written under it aeons ago.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you keep parroting the same argument in the face of direct contradictions.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consider trying to change my mind with facts. None of you have so far. Instead, you demonstrated a lack of knowledge and understanding. You are emotional, not rational.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it would take you 2 minutes to look for that info. it is readily available.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I have spent far more time on this topic. See my other answers if you don't believe me.