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Reddit temporarily bans r/WhitePeopleTwitter after Elon Musk claimed it had ‘broken the law’
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We will. If Lemmy users start inciting violence or commit other crimes, instance owners will need to crack down on them, or risk losing their instance.
The only thing we got going for us is that Lemmy isn't in the spotlight (yet).
How am I, a non-Am*rican citizen, going to lose something that I host out of my bedroom because Am*ricans got upset over what I said?
DNS can and has been taken down if site admins dont respond. As long as you use the US for resolving your .coms/.orgs etc.... Your ISP may take action as well.
You can get around it with quite a few methods. But yeah those are the big ones.
The internet is a bit more centralized than people think.
So we really need then a TLD in a country that doesn't have or enforce online laws, or a microstate where anything goes. Something like a Sealand TLD, alongside an ISP from the same place that has no logs.
Perhaps someone can take over the Bir Tawil and turn that into a digital safe haven.
A "No-Tell Motel" but for the Internet.
If I host it inside the Tor network, or I2P, then I've practically cut out all points centralization out except my ISP. I live in a country where Tor isn't illegal, though, and they can't know what I'm doing inside Tor by design so they'd have to find another excuse. Anyway I don't own any American domains.
As a side point: I would ironically be far worse off if I owned a domain from my own countrys TLD because they are incredibly strict about them.
I2P is wild. I played around with it a while back. Looks cool,but I just cant find anything interesting on the network.
Kinda the goal of i2p is to be hidden and you have to already know where to look
It depends on where it is hosted, but basically. Countries getting targeted by Trump's US and for whom the US is dissolving soft power (and compensation) for are not going to be too quick to respond, specially when they are consider actions against Elon and X.
Yes very true. Honestly it just makes the internet a bit more resilient in the long run...but those growing pains will be interesting. If ISPs start rolling out router blocklists like the news has been saying, it might mean rooting/getting a custom router becomes a necessity.
It depends on the local laws where the instance is hosted. If you would be committing a crime according to their local laws, instance owners would either have to remove your content or risk getting it forcefully removed by the "feds", or whatever that country's equivalent is.
Edit to add:
Of course, removing content is preferred, but if it becomes uncontrollable it might just be nuked
Second edit:
I read a bit too fast, I apologize. My comment is about users, not instance owners/admins. I refer to the reply you got from Admiral Patrick to fit your comment better.
In all of those cases, you're still free to say whatever you want on your own instance, but that doesn't guarantee anyone else will want to platform it on theirs. Owning your own home doesn't mean you can just waltz into other peoples' and say whatever you want.
Edited to fix a typo and change the tone so it didn't sound accusational (which wasn't my intent).
Neither of those 3 points have anything to do with what I said. This isn't a conversation about you having to tolerate me, it's a conversation about what state actors can do to censor Lemmy. Which is very little, because I can host an instance out of my bedroom and do basically whatever I want.
I mean, it's not unrelated. You can scream into a microphone all you want, but if it's not plugged into anything (or no one's listening)...
or for no any particular reason, like on your instance, lol. then admins will make up some rules retrospectively and will pretend that nothing happened
All it takes is a couple of planted actors, a few screenshots, and a few users repeatedly regurgitating "A traitor is a traitor!" People who start throwing punches should aim for the king, this just gets you trapped for peanuts.
You have one interaction, and you think the whole world is a conspiracy. Shit cracks me up.
Edit: if people want context, just take a look at my recent comments. This guy is trying to make something out of nothing.
It's much better to communicate the idea without inciting violence:
"Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives"
It's sweet, to the point, and is just a plain historical fact.
I am sick of this cowardice.
Straight up call for their deaths. Call each of them out specifically and let them know we are coming for them one day.
Lol you're free to do what you want.
But you are coming off as a fed who's trying to entrap people
And you’re coming off as a Trump supporter wanting to protect what’s happening.
Way too desperate. Go take a coffee break bud, maybe troll on another account for a while to let this one cool off.
Welcome back from your 3 day hiatus, totally different person not trying to entrap people.