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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Sorry to put a damper on your Schadenfreude, but this has nothing to do with any maga anti-vaccine laws. Although this outbreak is in Kansas, the TB vaccine is not used in the US, not even in blue states, except in rare special cases.

In the United States, BCG is only considered for people who meet specific criteria and in consultation with a TB expert.

See https://www.cdc.gov/tb/webcourses/TB101/page7181.html and https://www.cdc.gov/tb/hcp/vaccines/index.html

(it's so irritating how people just lap this crap up without an ounce of critical thinking)

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm Canadian and I had the TB vaccine in 2019 when I asked my doctor if I should have my vaccinations boosted because I was traveling for work. He asked me if I was traveling to third world countries and I said, "Yes, the United States."

He boosted my MMR, my DTP, TB, Hepatitis A and B, Yellow Fever, and added the Pneumococus and Meningitis vaccines.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did that include the DJT and RFKj vaccine?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yes. Unfortunately my neighbour is a fascism denier and got badly infected.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

This is an interesting point. So what is causing the TB outbreak.

Also, the right doesn't have a monopoly on hearing what they want to hear.

[–] swampdownloader@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is true but isn’t it only unnecessary in the US due to herd immunity?

The classic third world experience is having the mark on your bicep.

[–] mill_city@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

No, there has never been a widespread TB vaccination program in the United States. In fact if you work in an at risk industry (such as Healthcare) you'll be required to submit to routine testing that will tell if you've ever had an exposure to the vaccine or actual TB. 90+ percent of people will be negative to this test, indicating they've never had TB or the TB vaccine.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 9 points 2 years ago

Thanks for checking. It's so easy to believe the things that fit your own worldview.

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

n widely recommended in the

yup the evidence on the TB vaccine had been pretty iffy and many argued that lowered TB exposure and infection rates were due to better population nutrition and improved air quality. That said, most other countries still use BCG in the world.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, the irony....you've managed to out yourself as not even having read the article. But go you for managing to try and shit on the subject.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read it. It's a politically slanted article trying to link a TB outbreak with anti-vaxxers and magats, implying it happened because people refused to get vaccinated against TB, implying that the TB vaccine is even recommended or routinely given in the US, WHICH IT ISN'T, which I explained in my post with links to reliable sources backing up my statements.

You apparently didn't read either the article or my post, or maybe just didn't understand them. If you think I said something incorrect, state what it was and back up your statement.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

this has nothing to do with any maga anti-vaccine laws. Although this outbreak is in Kansas, the TB vaccine is not used in the US, not even in blue states, except in rare special cases.

Mate. It literally explains in the article that:

  • Tuberculosis vaccine is not mandatory and hasn't been required for almost 20 years.
  • That the controversy around COVID vaccination and the laws they pushed validating those imaginary fears made people fearful of vaccines, and by proxy, basic preventative healthcare.

The whole point of the article was to point out that the unintended consequences of pushing laws and regulations built on fear have harmful repercussions - i.e. you now have a population that thinks COVID isn't that bad, that won't wear masks, isolate, or go to the doctors.....in the middle of an outbreak that is extremely similar to COVID.