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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They don't just kill science: that's inconvenient and dumb but it can be put on pause fairly safely.

In this case, they're putting public health in grave danger. That will turn them into literal mass-murderer if a new pandemic takes hold.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago

I think they liked the results of the pandemic, they want to cause another one. First term I could blame it on incompetence, but this time it's very intentional.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

And you think they care?

Killing off science will ruin the country, it will even ruin the military as it depends in the results of science

They don't care.

They want their theocracy, that's all. If millions die, then that is a sacrifice they're willing to make, as long as it isn't them

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Science is a tool.

20th century facists used eugenics (which was considered scientifically sound at the time) to argue for genociding disabled people.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the small caveat that eugenics is not scientific.

It was an extremist interpretation of mendelian genetics. But it was a near dominant view among geneticists at the time.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's crazy to me is that eugenics is largely sound... It's literally a forbidden branch of science not because it's unscientific, but because our species can't be trusted with it

So much so that it becomes worthless. Elon Musk is doing his best to spread his genetics, even inappropriately offering up his sperm to female employees... He thinks he's one of humanities best and brightest. The kedamine addicted failed programmer turned conman, a guy so insecure he faked being good at video games and has created nothing himself, thinks his genes need to be spread far and wide

We are animals, we can indeed be bred for traits like animals, but we're so bad at evaluating ourselves we literally cannot use this branch of science

Eugenics is not sound because

  1. It makes moral judgments as to what human traits are desirable and undesirable, which are non-scientific and largely based in prejudice.
  2. It treats all traits as heritable which neglects socialisation and other complex factors.

Like for example eugenics in the Nazi regime genocided 90% of people with schizophrenia to try and wipe it out. But now, in 2025, schizophrenia rates are largely the same between germany and other western countries, because schizophrenia only has a small heritability factor.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There's already reporting of a "quademic" currently ravaging the US. Trump just put a gag order on the health departments.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2025/01/26/quad-demic-hitting-us-with-flu-covid-19-rsv-norovirus-surging/