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Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Trump pretty much won on optics alone and positioning himself once again as looking out for people despite not being true at all. Dems didn't want to address people's issues with the economy and did the weird thing of tap dancing for right Dick Cheney voters who don't exist.

Just stand for something, even if the risk of loss is high. It pays off in the end.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Trump won on optics because the optics on the ground matched what he was saying. Democrats insisted the economy was fine when people were hurting, and lost because of that.

[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I am convinced that the assassination attempt secured him the win. I'm not American so maybe I'm way off, but over here that felt like the pivotal moment. It's still annoying how GOOD that picture is.

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As a democrat who still voted for Harris, i think it was the fact that Biden promised to be a 1 ter president, but the DNC didn't want to run another primary because that would show how unpopular the neolibs in control of the party are, and they risk losing control of the party.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah! I very vividly remember him saying he will be a 1 term president. Haven't read about it anywhere

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

It helped bounce back with momentum. Harris was actually doing good when she was on the attack and pointing out how weird modern republicans are. Trump is the text book example of failing upwards.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Nah. At the moment it seemed like a really big deal but then it just kinda faded into the background after a news cycle. Nobody can tell you what day it happened on without googling.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

The slimy bullshit artist politician that lies about everything seems to be what people expect, like it's the devil they know.