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‘It’s ironic’: how climate crisis is driving Trump push on Greenland and Panama
(www.theguardian.com)
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It's putting so much fresh water into the ocean that it's destabilizing the Gulf Stream, which will plunge northwestern Europe into an ice age in a few years.
Good(ish) news everyone! Our current models suggest it probably won't happen this century (although it might) so it's probably another generation's problem (although it might not be and it's still definitely our actions, or lack thereof, that would be fucking them over).
Sorry, that's about as comforting as climate science gets these days.
Welp, I played myself. I was really intending to talk about the AMOC shutting down, but wrote "Gulf Stream" as shorthand instead because I didn't want to spell out the whole acronym and it's more famous/less necessary to explain (I was tapping the comment on a phone at the time).
Then, just my luck, you come in citing a source talking (among other things) about how the Gulf Stream specifically won't shut down totally, because of the component of it that isn't AMOC. 🤦
Anyway, that gaffe aside:
I didn't read through that report to see what it says about the timeline for the AMOC collapse in particular, but I've been paying a little bit of attention to the topic for a while now and it seems to me that, as new studies come out, they tend to revise the bounds of the estimate sooner and sooner. I feel like it's gone from "maybe by the end of the century" in the older studies to "maybe a decade or so from now" in some of the most recent ones. Personally, I think it's alarmingly possibly imminent. That's just my impression, though; it's not as if I did a legitimate literature review.
Yeah, I knew about that and the imminent Gulf stream troubles, but I never saw the actuall numbers. Like, I knew it was bad, but seeing how unimaginably large the numbers are is terrifying.