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Extremism in US military is ‘sleeping danger’ says author of Pentagon report
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 09 Jan 2025
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I double down in the absence of convincing arguments
Did you seriously just tell him to do his own research? I think that's how we got here in the first place…
Lmao. You're the one making claims about me being wrong, so you have to provide arguments for why that is. Saying "i know why you're wrong, but that's for you to find out" is lazy debating
Your premise is willfully devoid of any condition or nuance for deliberate effect. It deserves no respect.
Extremes of government are authoritarian. Left or right. Extremes of personal ideologies can be violent or even terrorism. Extremism is harm.
Believing things to be good like environmental regulation, universal health care, civil rights, or even in BLM is not extreme when they seek to undo or prevent objective harm and injustice. Maybe you are deliberately being stupid to make a point, but it’s patently obvious the parent comment pointed out the hypocrisy in labeling what constitutes extreme.
I think there might have been a misunderstanding. When I mentioned left-wing extremism, I was referring specifically to ideologies like communism and their historical tendencies toward authoritarianism—not to more moderate left-wing policies like universal health care or civil rights, which I agree aren’t extreme. My point was that extremism, whether left or right, often leads to authoritarian outcomes
Then you should have expended the time to nuance your position rather than making an appeal to hypocrisy argument and wasting your and everyone else's time. However, your argumentative follow up responses don’t really do your claim of “misunderstanding” any favors.
Forgive me for the misunderstanding 🙏. I thought it was fairly obvious what i was referring to.
Oh i think i understand what you're getting at now and i think we might end up being on the same page. I also prefer to use the political compass model. I was using the typical left-right spectrum as only a matter of simplicity, which is why i said left wing extremism can also be authoritarianism and not is always authoritarianism.
This isn't to say that communism is always authoritarian, but it depends on the ideology of the individual and how it's implemented.
I guess it would be better to say some authoritarian extreme left-wing ideologies are Stalinism and Maoism.
This was a good conversation. I'm glad we could agree on something!
Yes, i will admit I'm still an amateur when it comes to this stuff. The numerous terminologies and jargon don't do much to make the process easier. Can you recommend any resources that helped you wrap your head around this stuff?
I very much agree with your last point about picking and choosing bad examples to discredit whole theories. Thanks for taking the time to compile all this. I'll check em all out.
You sure spend a lot of time defending fascists lol
It's my neverending desire to present fairness to both sides of an argument. Something something broken clocks...
Ok bud. Have a great day