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[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Man the english language makes no sense.

the sound in lose is the same sound as we are taught “oo” makes.

Couldn’t a more straightforward language be chosen as the global one ffs

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My father (who had a PhD in English) used to tell me that "ghoti" was pronounced "fish"

GH as in rouGH
O as in wOmen
TI as in raTIon

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do you pronounce women? When I put those sounds together it makes more of a fush or fosh than fish .

Or do you say fish different than me?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

"Wih-men." I think you're thinking of woman, the singular version of the word.

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 1 points 2 years ago

That isn't really consistent with English orthography.

But you can write "pfysche", and that would be consistent with English.

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Looks like we can thank the Dutch language for that one

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks like loose is from Germanic/Old Norse, "laus"

And lose is from Old English, "los"

Also looks like I can't stand to look at either of these words for a few day now.

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

From my tiny amount of research eventually it passed through the Dutch layer and ended up as "loose" from those origin points before being adopted into english

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

doesn’t matter what the root is. Just conform the spelling to fit your language’s rules

[–] dcpDarkMatter@kbin.earth 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

English? Rules?

We don't do that here.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GHOTI is pronounced as "fish".

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago

Damn, I haven't seen that one in forever.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 2 years ago

Kamala must change her name to commalaa

[–] brenstar@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

Loose could really be tightened up if it could just lose one of those Os

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

There's also loose and they sound the same but mean different things.

Loose is when your pants is too wide.

Lose is when the pants were so wide that you lost them.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lucy's loose legwear lost latitude, leisurely lowering, leaving Lucy's legs largely liberated. Lamentably, Lucy's lost leggings landed listlessly, loitering lifelessly.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Man looking a thesaurus is fun Lol

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They don't sound the same at all though.

Lose - looze

Loose - luice

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Interesting, I didn't know that. FYI, there's the phonetic transcription that saves us from using other words to describe a pronunciation.

luːz - lose

luːs - loose

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I think they sound different, loose ends with a curt "s" sound, while lose ends with a longer "z" sound.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Silly poem showing its age,

Made has not the sound of bade,

Made totally sounds like bade

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Ooh, also its accent, this is not a thing couplet for me

Discount, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward,

Nor it's immediate predecessor,

Banquet is not nearly parquet,
Which exactly rhymes with khaki.

Parquet isn't in my vocabulary, but doesn't seem to rhyme with khaki in any common dialect either way.