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Biden's last hoorah: $8 billion weapons package to Israel is in the works (www.ynetnews.com)
submitted 11 months ago by PlasticLove@lemmy.today to c/world@quokk.au
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The U.S. plans to approve an arms package for Israel, including artillery shells, precision bombs, and GPS systems, though production and delivery could take years; Meanwhile, heavy bombs and bulldozer shipments face delays due to concerns over impact on civilians in Gaza

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 82 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Can someone change the shipping label and send it to Ukraine instead?

[–] Suffa@lemmy.wtf 12 points 11 months ago

No they don’t need it, not like struggling to survive Israel.

[–] mormund@feddit.org 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Before anyone misunderstands my point, Israel is committing acts of genocide in Gaza and it's allies are complicit by their (in)actions.

However Israel and Ukrainian weapon deals are very different. Israel just pays for their weapons, as far as I know they do not get any financial support. Ukraine cannot afford that, so either the weapons are gifted or financed indirectly through sized assets. Morally it makes no difference imo, but economically there is a world of difference.

[–] PlasticLove@lemmy.today 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Completely false.

The US routinely gives Israel billions in aid. If they’re paying for US weapons, it’s with US money.

[–] mormund@feddit.org 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not in any instance I can recall, but please provide a source if that has been the case

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Morally it makes no difference imo, but economically there is a world of difference.

Morally, Ukraine isn't committing genocide.

[–] mormund@feddit.org 3 points 11 months ago

I meant morally there is no difference to me wether the US sells or gifts the weapons Israel uses to bomb civilians. Ukraine and Israel are a world of difference.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

It is exactly the opposite. Ukraine gets lend leased weapons they need to pay back.

Israel receives billions in military aid budget which they then use to "buy" American weapons with.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You're saying they're already paid for then? Even more reason to send them to Ukraine

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What uhhh, what do you think "aid" is? We give them X money and they buy Y American made weapons with it.

[–] mormund@feddit.org 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When was aid like that provided to Israel? I cannot recall that happening. They're buying weapons with their own money. Doesn't make it ok to sell weapons to someone committing genocide, but it is not free aid either.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Since forever.

They are not buying with their own money. Whoever told you that is lying to you.

[–] mormund@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago

That is certainly not true. From the article itself: "which Israel had purchased from Boeing with Israeli funds". So they do buy with their own money. But far less then I assumed.

What I missed was that the US provides aid, with the caveat that Israel has to spend it on US weapons. So they are buying from the US, but with US money.