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[–] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 203 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The way this article seems to go out of its way to humanize this guy before remembering to mention the ways this guy has hurt so many people by chasing profit at the expensive of people’s lives is kind of wild.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 155 points 1 year ago (4 children)

“Killing one person is wrong, but causing millions to suffer and many to die due to lack of healthcare is obviously OK if you’re doing it for massive profit!“

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I Worked It Out. You Have Killed Two Point Three Three Eight People," said the golem calmly.

"I have never laid a finger on anyone in my life, Mr Pump. I may be–– all the things you know I am, but I am not a killer! I have never so much as drawn a sword!"

"No, You Have Not. But You Have Stolen, Embezzled, Defrauded And Swindled Without Discrimination, Mr Lipvig. You Have Ruined Businesses And Destroyed Jobs. When Banks Fail, It Is Seldom Bankers Who Starve. Your Actions Have Taken Money From Those Who Had Little Enough To Begin With. In A Myriad Small Ways You Have Hastened The Deaths Of Many. You Do Not Know Them. You Did Not See Them Bleed. But You Snatched Bread From Their Mouths And Tore Clothes From Their Backs. For Sport, Mr Lipvig. For Sport. For The Joy Of The Game.

  • Terry Pratchett, Going Postal
[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

No one is finally dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away, until the clock wound up winds down, until the wine she made has finished its ferment, until the crop they planted is harvested. The span of someone’s life is only the core of their actual existence

I feel Sir Pterry will outlive us all

GNU Terry Pratchett

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's worse than that. It's not "lack of healthcare", the people who were victimized had health insurance, they were just lied to. It's people paying, thinking they're covered, then UH's algorithm denies their claims (90% of them) to increase their profits. While people die and families are bankrupted.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They had health insurance, which is not health care.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Clearly. Edited to echo what you're saying.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. If it's done "legally" then it's OK. That's why cops can murder people and it's OK. As long as you can buy a politician or two to legalize the suffering you cause, you're doing just fine.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You’re forgetting that if it benefits the elite by causing the poor and or minorities to suffer, it is automatically legal!

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

That's the corporate press for you.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

They're hoping the humanizing also protects their CEO, who is a different variation of corrupt and harmful to society.

But we are capitalists, chasing profit is the highest morality and human calling. It is killing without direct investor profit that is immoral.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You need to remember that ALL media outlets are tools of the rich to keep the poor in check. They will ALWAYS spin these things to make the rich person look a good as possible.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe because he was a human???

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He was a human.

A sociopathic one. An arrogant one(I can't imagine ever walking around without security if I got rich off of deciding who gets to live and die, but then again I'm not evil or stupid enough to do any of that).

He was human, but that doesn't mean he should have gotten a free pass to be evil. The "justice" system was obviously never going to deal any justice for the millions of families who lost a beloved one to this mans' sociopathic decisions.

Sometimes when you do evil things, you win evil prizes.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Systematic (and alleged automated) denials of claims are highly immoral, unethical and possibly illegal thing to do. I just think this doesn't solve the root problem and just adds one more death without fixing it. I don't think this is both a sensible way as well as right way to fix this. Also, I don't think you can just stamp each CEO as immoral automatically. General thinking for specific groups of people is frowned upon based on ethnicity, origin or gender, yet when we look at socioeconomic groups it suddenly becomes right? I think the freedom of movement should exist for even those in power and political//legal issues should be handled the right way. Peaceful protests and movements for a healthcare reform are the only right way long term to support this if you're American and really care about the issue. Short term violence LARPing just causes polarization and makes the people fighting against this system seem crazy.

Systematic (and alleged automated) denials of claims are highly immoral, unethical and possibly illegal thing to do.

Immoral? Yes. Illegal? Obviously not, considering the amount of people who have died due to these exact kind of denials.

It's not illegal because the same people making money off of denying claims and killing people are using this vast wealth to lobby and propagandize against any step towards universal health care.

I just think this doesn't solve the root problem and just adds one more death without fixing it.

I think you are probably right, but I think it at least sends a message to the people who can fix it. I don't think it's going to make the root problem worse, either.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

So we're the thousands who died due to his greed. I'll try to remember to shed a tear for him after all the rest.