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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For those wondering where this sudden interest comes from, watch Dave Grush interview

https://youtu.be/x_9gTDXF9Vc No matter your opinion on the subject, he is the most credible source yet

[–] refalo@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If by credible you mean full of shit.

Being in the military does not make you more/less credible.

Being in intelligence services does not make you more/less credible.

The man could be a believer, like people who trust psychics, and genuinely think what he’s saying is true. He could be struggling with mental illness and believe himself. He could be a huckster trying to make money off UFO enthusiasts ( writing a book, giving paid lectures, interviews).

He hasn’t shown evidence. That’s a serious red flag. Perhaps that evidence comes tomorrow, but all previous claims like this just fade away without evidence being shown.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still remain logically skeptical and also want hard evidence, but a lot of what you say doesn't make any sense.

He went under oath as a whistleblower. Book writing and doing this as a cash grab makes absolutely zero sense. If he's lying or making shit up, he's toast. He seems to know and follow the law way too well for some fancy grift.

The entire reason he's not "showing evidence" is because it's all classified and he'll be crucified. You know this, which means you are being deliberately disingenuous.

Imo he's done his job. The ball is now in the court of our ridiculously flawed and corrupt government. Why don't they grab all the 40 people Grusch interviewed? Why don't they forcefully get the answers and evidence Grusch has?

We know. It's classified. Need to know. National security.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He went under oath as a whistleblower

People still lie though.

If he's lying or making shit up, he's toast

I think this is already the consensus among people who at least didn't believe in UFOs before hearing about him.

He seems to know and follow the law way too well for some fancy grift.

Pathologies can be sneaky like that.

The entire reason he's not "showing evidence" is because it's all classified and he'll be crucified

You can't know that, you're just wildly guessing. It's a convenient cop-out for bullshitters.

You know this, which means you are being deliberately disingenuous.

No, I just think he's full of shit, whether he realizes it or not. Until I see some evidence I'm not willing to change my mind.

our ridiculously flawed and corrupt government.

There are other countries and governments and people of the world. Not a single one has ever shown any credible evidence in the history of ever.

Why don't they forcefully get the answers and evidence Grusch has?

Because I believe it's all made up.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because I believe it's all made up.

Ah so we're talking about faith, not logic.