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I hate Nick Fuentes and his content, but her story is suspicious. I find it very strange that she took it upon herself to learn where his house is, go there, and try to talk to the guy. If the roles were reversed, a MAGA supporter showing up at a liberal public figure’s home, I think people would interpret it as harassment.
That said, I don’t understand how this was a legal use of pepper spray. If she really only said “hello” and did not try to advance into the house, then I don’t think he could reasonably argue he felt threatened with bodily harm in any way.
That’s an issue for court to decide though. I imagine the truth lies in the full video.
Learning where his house is would take no effort as he's been so thoroughly doxxed even I saw his address and I'm basically that meme of the old lady peering at the screen through my granny-glasses.
A perfect alpha male, frightened to death at a woman saying "Hello" while he's still in the safety of his house. Compare that to the women who ovary up and keep going while they're being catcalled, or make the potentially life-threatening decision to say either yes or no to a strange man in a bar.
Looking up his address and going there could be premeditation for harassment or harm depending on how the series of events at the door transpired. It doesn’t matter if he is an alpha male or if she is in a wheelchair, it is reasonable to think that a stranger who has come to your home to confront you over internet posts may mean you harm.
That said, I don’t think he was justified in deploying pepper spray without at least verbally ordering her to leave the property. If he did that and she stayed though…then there isn’t going to be much legal defense available to her in many states.
A stranger looking up your, not publicly displayed, home adress and then showing up at your door, for whatever reason they think they have, is beyond suspicious.
Whatever happened after that is a different matter ofcourse.
But it's ok when Jehovah's Witnesses, Evangelicals, politicians, and whatever other canvassers do it? So does that mean I can legally just pepper spray them?
Important caveat: I'm a white male
Y'know, it's dangerous out there. Maybe you should just start mag dumping through the front door whenever the doorbell rings or a robin farts.
It turns out in America it's surprisingly easy to get away with pepper spraying people. There's a weird YouTube rabbit hole of "free speech auditors" who go around doing things they're legally allowed to do but are shitty to get reactions. They escalate things until they pepper spray the person they're aggravating. Even in their own videos cops show up and basically just shrug. I think the logic is that since it doesn't cause any long term damage that a lawyer can pretty easily argue it was a "reasonable force"
Short answer: I'd be surprised if he suffers any consequences from this
I know that—I have pepper spray for self defense for that very reason, along with other weapons.
The issue is that you have to feel reasonably threatened still. For a gun, the bar is serious harm, and for pepper spray it can be a much milder threat such as approaching or violent words.
I just don’t see how “hello” is threatening before a verbal order to leave the property. That’s why I think the video is important—her attitude and stance will make a huge difference in how justified the response was.
Other than to his reputation as an "alpha male". And in his "business" that loss may well cost him his livelihood.
We live in hope.