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To win back support, the Democratic candidate must offer a positive and coherent vision centered on care and progressive policies, rather than relying solely on anti-Trump rhetoric.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you want the Dems to move left, then they need to win. Because everytime they lose they go to the center to find votes. And that's where they find them.

Dems have had all 3 of house of reps, Senate, and presidency for only 4 of the last 24 years. Or 6 years of the last 32 years. Or 6 years of the last 44 years. And you're amazed that they go to the center to find voters? They need to. Because the left never shows up to vote as evidenced by your comment. And everytime they lose, like they've lost for 20 of the last 24 years, they go to the center to find votes.

You want to move the Overton window? You want things to move left? You do that by giving Dems consistent and overwhelming victories. Not a measly 4 years every 24 years.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is pretty simple actually, what part is complicated to you?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The part where millions of people are supposed to vote for policy they don’t want.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you want far left policy then you have to vote for a little bit left first. (I'll use those terms to get the point across.)

AKA: You have to walk before you run.

This is exactly what the GOP did, they had to vote for decades before getting what they wanted: Overturning Roe.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want, say, far left voters to vote, you have to do far left policy say, a little bit left first. It’s simple dialectics.

People didn’t vote for Bernie Sanders because they wanted center-right policies. They voted for far-left policies.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's what I'm getting at. You aren't going to get far left policy just out of the blue. Not going to happen. It simply won't.

If you want far left policy, then you have to vote for a little (to the power of 3) left first. When that wins, then you can vote for a little (to the power of 2) left. When that wins, then you get to vote for a little (to the power of 1) left.

See how this goes?

This is why there's so many saying like this: Walk before you run. Tip your toes in before you take the plunge. Baby steps. Etc, etc, etc.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’ll take the word of political analyst and Democratic Party insider Lawrence O’Donnell over some guy:

The Left Shouldn’t Vote for Corporate Democrats.

Is a political party supposed to serve the people, or are the people supposed to serve the political party?