But you can be mad and still love someone.
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As a Canadian, nah. America's basically manic/unstable. You voted in Biden after the first Trump shitshow, and then went back to Trump. There's absolutely no guarantee that America won't just elect Donald Trump Junior to be dictator in a future election cycle.
Even more, many dems are quietly supporting the general moves of the government, in regards to tariffs etc. They just wanted the verbiage to be a bit nicer, as America went about fucking over their allies.
Our leaders will likely bend over at some point, because that's what politicians seem to do. But for the rest of us, I hope we continue avoiding America, and continue pushing for separating our economies / cultures / critical industries. Only way I'd be enticed to consider moving closer to how ties were before, would be if we see America do what a "Leader" of the "Free world" should do: allow your war criminals to be tried in the international criminal court for their crimes against humanity etc.
Don't impeach. Send Hegseth to the Hague, then we'll talk.
You have no proof that Democrats ever supported tariffs. And Canada wouldn't last 10 years without US allied protection. A few western Canadian provinces were thinking of joining the US, so you're completely off-base.
Right, so here's an article interviewing Gavin Newsom, one of the rumored potential democrat presidential candidates, which notes:
So my comment that dems are supporting tariff type moves, is supported by historical actions of Biden (expanding Trump's first term tariffs), and Newsom's statement that he couldn't officially say he'd roll back any tariffs (he wants to keep the option open to just leave them in place / collect that revenue).
The main threat to Canada is the USA. China and Russia, while threats, aren't generally imperialistic threats to Canada, in part due to distance -- they'd disrupt the functioning of the country if they could, but something like land invasions/border redrawing are typically reserved for regional neighbours (ex. Ukraine, Taiwan, Tibet). Arguing that we need the USA's protection, is like a bully telling their victims they need to pay a protection racket. Western provinces weren't thinking of joining the USA -- Alberta, ONE western province, had a vote recently on whether they wanted to have a vote about leaving Canada (NOT a vote about joining the USA), and that vote resulted in a resounding "FUCK OFF, WE'RE CANADIAN".
If either of us are off base, I think it's you.
Heghserh to the Hague would be one required step amongst thousands. At this point the USA will have to do much, MUCH more to become an acceptable neighbor
Amongst those steps
Official apologies for wanting to take over Canada, including the insults, threats, and acts of subterfuge (hello Alberta)
Sending both heghseth and trump to the Hague
Confiscatng all the money and assets the trump family gathered and stole during trumps presidency
A full reversal of prettt much every law trump added to the books during his tenancy
A reversal of all presidential pardons, put all those criminals back in jail
Official corruption investigationa on every level of government, jailing everyone involved
Official corruption and bribery investigations for all large companies that have worked with the US government, jailing all CEOs who bribed US government officials
Complete revision of how elections work
The only outlier may be reverting the pardons, as I am not sure there is a legal vehicle for that. One could be constructed, but it is part of a larger conversation about the intention of the checks and balances between the three branches and how that has been eroded.
Investigating those pardoned for other crimes, however, should be easily available and pursued steadfastly. I do worry about the broad terms of some pardons that may have included language such as 'any and all', and even 'future'. Abominable.
Congress and a future president could push back on the power of the pardon. Just prosecute them anyway, and say 'the constitution doesn't allow the president to pardon future crimes.'
Honestly, the supreme Court doesn't have enforcement power. They can be ignored. I've seen an op ed calling on Congress to repeal marbury vrs madison. They gave themselves that power, it can be revoked by the body that actually represents the people of the country.
Hi neighbor! The manic political temperament here is exhausting!
About the tariffs..It is an oversimplification to say that "Dems support the tariffs". It is incredibly more complex than that and deserves more context. August 2026 was the *first *time Dems voted bipartisan for a "broad" tariff, however it was still narrow in scope. It was packaged as a national defense and geopolitical foreign policy bill.
The sanctions focused on penalizing Russia and Iran, which will permit tariffs to be imposed on Russia's top 5 purchasers of oil and gas. Yes it does affect other countries, however It has carved out provisions for European allies. The waiver that gives Trump the authority to not impose sanctions on Russia will be removed. This will be Wyden's second task when he is re-appointed to chair of the Senate Finance Committee. Removing that waiver was the intention Congress voted for to jam up Russia's financial war capabilities. This will also give Congress back its constitutional power to manage international commerce and national security.
The same month, August 2026, Trump unilaterally enacted the 50% tariffs on Canada. Sorey about that! It was an executive decision under a tariff act from the 1930's. Democrats in both the House and Senate crafted fast tracked legislation to overturn it. Dems were able to pull 10 R's to oppose it, but neither passed on razor thin margins. There was 1 DINO that voted in support. He is Republican, has a history of being actively involved in Republican politics, votes in line with R's and did not seek reelection.
Dems platformed and now have the legislative power to roll back the broad sweeping indiscriminate tariffs. House Dem Leader Hakeem Jeffries (presumed Speaker of the House) has coordinated "First 100 Hours" Legislative Blitz and Congress plans to prioritize Canada. 🇨🇦 Keep an eye out for the BAD DEAL Act in a few months. It intends to repeal the tariffs on Canadian goods and force the Treasury Dept to refund the millions collected by it. This is Wyden's first priority.
It's worth mentioning, there are multiple billion dollar refunds actively being litigated in the federal judicial system. Courts are ruling in favor of the refunds and have successfully returned $100 billion and estimated to be $170b but more may come down the pipeline, that's just what has been settled and active now. It is the largest trade tariff related refund in US history.
I was just reading about all this stuff and your comment caught my eye so, yeah, context. Far from functional but we are trying to right this ship. Carry on with any & all contempt, we have earned it.
O, Canada. Please hold, your call is important to us!
Yeah, we'll wait and see. But as your previous-worst Republican president that we thought you couldn't go any lower from once said, "fool me once, shame on you... fool me... uh... um... you can't get fooled again?"
The US would have to join the ICC first. That's one massive stain on the US in itself.
There's an international criminal court that 125 nations are a party to, but the US decides "nah" and so Americans can't be tried there and effectively have immunity for any international crimes they commit.
We would have to impeach him before doing that anyway.
Send Hegseth to Tehran please, we will feed him ghormesabzi and recite poetry over tea.