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[–] lischni_tschelowek@discuss.tchncs.de 90 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So, you could have programmed happily in php for 30 years, or jump on the new bandwagon every other year? compelling argument.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

One does not program happily in PHP

[–] Ftumch@lemmy.today 28 points 2 days ago

While the language has improved over the years, I've personally never seen a PHP codebase that made me happy.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or, if you spin it another way: you could've picked up the skills to develop for and support various frameworks, or get stuck in a rut for 30 years with just a single antiquated server-side language.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If its so antiquated why is it still used? For a lot of things its perfectly fine. Even this vulnerability is just a case of run the update command for your package manager.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It's still used because momentum is a powerful factor. That doesn't make PHP better, but it can make it a more expedient choice.

PHP is a preprocessor that grew too big for its britches. It's a monolithic monster that runs only one thread per request in an interpreter. It works well enough if you need to manage the data of an internet forum, but it becomes increasingly unsuitable as the task's complexity grows. If you need threading or background tasks, or if scalability is important, PHP is not it; just read any number of Nextcloud vs OpenCloud comparisons.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 14 points 2 days ago

"one thread per request" , "interpreter"

(Looks confusingly) That's JS and Python as well

PS: being obtuse on purpose, but PHP lends itself well to typical requirements of web hosting and you can always call out to a diff process if needed

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

Fair, but a lot of sites don't need anything more complex than an internet forum, often less than even that.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

You realize that the language evolved over the years and it's not even close to the same language it was 15 years ago?

The fact that you also mix frameworks and languages also tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about