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[–] dudinax@programming.dev 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Chinese room is not at all airtight. We don't know what it means to have emotions so we can't prove a Chinese room can't have emotions.

[–] PurpleClouds@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is not what the Chinese room is about.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In this context the question is whether a Chinese room can suffer. We can't show a human isn't a Chinese room, humans can suffer so we can't show every Chinese room doesn't suffer.

[–] PurpleClouds@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The Chinese room argument is about understanding, not emotions. There is a large body of literature on the use and evolutionary benefit of emotion. While you can make an analogy to see if a system can have emotions the link between understanding is not trivial. For example, animals show emotion but don’t have the same understanding that a human may have. I don’t think you need to have understanding to have emotions. So the Chinese room argument is shoe horned in without making it clear what your argument is.

[–] story@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Emotions? i was confident that the Wikipedia article alone would grant you understanding, and for that, I have replicated the very situation I wanted you to learn about. This situation is my fault.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 days ago

We don't know what it means to have emotions

We don't? That's news to me. Sorry for your loss, or happy for you, or whatever