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[–] gdbjr@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I tell the LLM I use to do very obscene things to themselves when they make shit up. Which means there is just a constant stream of insults coming from me. I might start using Claude just to see if I get banned.

I also need new hobbies.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I also need new hobbies.

I'd second that. Whenever I catch myself getting angry at a LLM I stop, have a think, and remind myself that it really isn't productive. If it's providing frustrating responses, maybe I should just use my brain and do it myself.

I also don't think it's healthy to train yourself to respond in those ways to something that talks in a way so similar to a human. I'm not nice to the AI for it's benifit, it's to retain my humanity, if that makes sense.

[–] Seralth@piefed.seralth.com 6 points 1 day ago

Being nice to them also keeps them from lying somewhat. If you abuse a model it can start to see that abuse as a problem to solve as part of the steps needed to solve the main problem they are given.

They are told to help you solve a problem no matter what. If your own anger gets in the way then the model starts breaking down trying to solve the anger when it just cant.

This results in jailbreaks sometimes and othertimes just the model becoming rather unstable and unreliable.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's bad sib. Not for the LLM, but your own well being. Being mean to a machine that is designed to trigger empathy just hurts your own mental health.

Please find a hobby that feels good for you 🫂

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fuck clankers, they arent real. Be mean to them it hurts no one.

[–] anotherandrew@lemmy.mixdown.ca 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Like I tell my children, allowing yourself to act in such a way is harmful to yourself. It’s not going to make you an evil person or something, but that kind of behaviour is corrosive to your soul. How you think shapes how you behave, and your behaviour trains your future self. Be good to yourself. It’s not about the clanker; it’s about you.

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As corny as it sounds, this is what I also emphasize. If you allow yourself to be evil, no matter how valid the reasoning for it, you are actively exercising the habit of being evil in general, no matter if it feels like it or not. Practice makes perfect, as they say. In good and bad.

[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is yelling at a bot that was deliberately trained to lie to you "evil"?

[–] Rinn@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

As others are trying to convey, it's not about the bot but about allowing yourself to indulge in this behavior. The bot could be substituted for a rock or a rubber duck, but you are training yourself to subconsciously think that this behavior is acceptable. It increases the chance that you'll one day start treating actual people like that.

Imagine this scenario: you come home after a long day of work. At work, you use AI a lot and curse and swear at it when it makes mistakes (which is often). At home, you ask your spouse/child/roommate/parent to do something for you, which they attempt but proceed to mess up. They apologize, and instead of handling it calmly you instinctively react like you've trained yourself to react - by screaming at them.

Is that what you want to be like?

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago

Thank you! This is exactly the point I'm trying to make. You are a good parent.

[–] neatchee@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, that's not entirely true. If they're using your input as training data then you might be training it to be abusive to other users, which could cause harm.

Not that that falls on you to address. Just pointing out that I'm theory someone could get hurt.

[–] Seralth@piefed.seralth.com -1 points 1 day ago

Sorta hurts yourself if your trying to actually use them for work. Since it results in worse performance out of them. They tend to get stuck trying to fix the anger as it gets in the way of the work.

If your just talking to some random chat bot? Yeah fuck it, kick em it litterally doesnt matter. lol

[–] gdbjr@piefed.social -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol. "designed to trigger empathy" Thanks for the laugh I needed that.

They are designed to make their creators as much money as possible. Nothing else.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah and a bit part of that design is to get you to have an emotional connection with them so that you use them more

Its not that hard to get copies of GTA yknow