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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 199 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

We need to spread this to the other mass surveillance companies, starting with Palantir.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 70 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly Palantir works in the shadows unlike Flock, harder to point out to people

[–] EliteCloneMike@lemmy.zip 31 points 20 hours ago

The most easily recognizable by people would be Google and Meta. Those two top the charts for non-consensual surveillance. I think those to need to be reigned in big time, along with some of the other big tech companies. All are anti-consumer. I guess at least those try to have some level of transparency, but they still have awful business practices.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 11 points 16 hours ago

I don't have that kind of faith in humanity.

Flock has failed but they really just serve as a demonstration of what not to do, for dozens of other companies.

People much smarter than me will have already mapped it out.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 18 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

What's the name of the alternative camera company thats been gaining ground while folks are angry about flock?

[–] bagelberger@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Axon, same company that makes body cameras for police

[–] borkborkbork@piefed.social 5 points 12 hours ago

From the same assholes who brought you tasers

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Axon, Genetec, Vigilant (Motorola), Rekor, Leonardo... A lot of them and the tech is pretty easy so a hundred other smaller companies. It needs to be banned at the national level by law for any actual change, but good luck convincing the government not to build out the Panopticon they seem to want so badly.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I have some hope that counties and states will end up making different contracts with different companies at different times, and that interoperability will be a very late afterthought just like it is in the rest of the proprietary software world, leaving various jurisdictions with many uncoordinated and incompatible databases and applications. Every proprietary software maker does the same thing, they don't make their data system open or accessible unless some outside pressure forces it.

Also some states and counties are putting bans or other regulatory restrictions in place, which will help add to the general confusion and compatibility issues.

For those of you working in tech fields that may be related, now is the time to take all of the lessons you've learned about how bad, selfish proprietary software is made, all the annoyances and roadblocks you've run into over the years trying to make disparate bits of technology work together, and start implementing those as features. If someone questions it, tell them it's necessary to protect company intellectual property. Make it clunky.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 6 points 16 hours ago

Thank you for the list! ❤️