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Feminism has spent the last 150+ years trying to convince society that women can be level-headed, responsible adults instead of the emotional and hysterical forever-children that they were painted as.
This caricature of uncontrolled emotionality and hysteria was the entire reasoning as to why they could have no agency and therefore could accept no responsibility. That they could not be trusted to act with logic, reason, and accountability, and that their female nature nerfed their cognitive abilities so much that they would always require male chaperones and “owners”, just like children.
With Lindsey Clancy, Women just collectively argued for the latter all over again.
I’m a leftist that’s two good shakes away from being a communist, but holy goddamn hell this argument that women are using - that she is not responsible and cannot be held accountable regardless of how clearly and intentionally she meticulously planned the killings - is rolling the argument for women’s rights all the way back, weaponizing it in the most effective possible way, and then handing it wrapped up in a gift bow directly to the political right.
She planned it. She was 100% responsible. The sooner women stop using the “hormones” excuse, the sooner we stop arming the political right.
All the jurors except for the one guy found reasonable doubt though, not just the women jurors. And the outlier guy really is a piece of work. Clancey will never be free in any event, she's paralyzed and either gonna be in jail or a mental hospital.
Men have mental health issues related to hormones too, that is not by any means something unique to women. I get what you are saying but dudes make the same case for mental incapacity/insanity.
Finally, a sane take. Thank you
Asserting that all women must be punished as a group for the actions of some is extremely sexist.
You are no leftist with views like these.
You… haven’t even understood what I wrote, have you?
I never said anything of the sort. I simply articulated what the political right will use as ammunition, and how women everywhere have handed the political right the very ammunition they intend to use.
Because the political right will point to all the female supporters of Lindsay Clancy and say, “See? They are demanding that she not be held accountable for her crimes. And if women cannot be held accountable - if they can use this “hormones” card whenever they want - they cannot be trusted with responsibility.”
And it is by that very method that the right will move mountains to roll back 150 years of genuine progress.
Be careful what you wish for. Responsibility comes with a heaping foundation of accountability, and if fathers with mental disorders can be nailed to the wall for infanticide, so should mothers. That is, after all, the basis of equality. And if we don’t implement true equality, why even call it that?
Telling women to be silent in case the right weaponizes what a minority of people are doing is in effect punishing all women for the actions of a few. You are working for conservatives by doing their work for them in advance. You are casting all women as irrational on the basis that the right will cast all women as irrational.
And if we aren’t clear on what the right will do - if we ignore it wholesale - their tactics will be all the more effective.
I’m NOT saying, “shut up”, I’m saying, “be aware of how what you are saying can and will be used against you and the rights you have fought so hard to achieve”.
And from my discussions with other women (quite a few hundred over the last several months), female supporters of Lindsay Clancy are very much in the majority, even up here in Canada. It isn’t some fringe group, it is an above-50% proportion of adult women who think that she is either totally innocent, or at the very least not criminally liable for a well-planned, well-orchestrated, and clearly forethought series of murders. And that is disturbing AF, especially considering the wildly imbalanced gender sentencing gap.
To be absolutely clear: a fair majority of women are openly rejecting true equality in sentencing for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with equality and everything to do with establishing and maintaining special gender-unique privileges.
Believing that post partum psychosis can lead to terrible tragedies is not an extremist fringe belief. Believing that better treatment and healthcare for pregnant and post partum women in order to prevent these kinds of tragedies is not an extremist fringe belief. I will not stand by and let people like you frame those beliefs as extremist or fringe or not worthy of being taken seriously.
Sweet Straw Man fallacy, bro. In my line of work, that’s called “dialling the intellectual bankruptcy up to 11”.
I mean, if you wildly misinterpret my statements of “this is what the baddies will weaponize against you and women’s rights” as anything else other than exactly that, then there is nothing else I can do; you are fully insulated from any reasonable or rational debate. You are acting as a troll, manufacturing rage to more easily spout lies and claim falsehoods.
Because I never said anything of the above quoted, either online or off.
Definitely not being cool.