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[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I mean. Those are two different things. I don't know how someone could disagree with it.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

That's my first thought but I know some people are very touchy on this topic. The challenge is to say something most people will agree with. It seems like some people pick a side between violence and non-violence, others pick a side between the people groups, some seem to make the two inseparable, and others make it separable.

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 17 points 23 hours ago

The issue is more the bad faith actors who will ignore what you say and just call you antisemetic anyway.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

Well, now you're getting into people parroting talking points back so they don't have to think about what you're saying. I wish you luck with that battle. I've had it many times. Using things people feel strongly about might help; like the Afghanistan "conflict". If someone is informed about the atrocities american's commited and are against it, that can be likened to Israel's treatment of Palestinians and might get them to think.