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[–] Zensate@lemmy.world -4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But social norms aren't empathy. They are adhered to because of the punishment that will result if you break them. Before you have any chance of developing empathy or emotional intelligence, you are taught as a child that breaking social norms will result in punishment, and from then on your only motivation to follow them is fear of punishment.

And that is exactly the same mechanism as religious morality.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

you are taught as a child that breaking social norms will result in punishment, and from then on your only motivation to follow them is fear of punishment.

I'm sorry to hear about your sociopathy, but no this is not how most people work.

[–] Zensate@lemmy.world -3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Deflection beats introspection, eh? It always amazes me how easily insults come to the "morally righteous".

At least now you know how people become bad - they don't have the courage to question whether what they're doing is actually good.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's not an insult It's illustrating the ridiculousness of your claim. Your faux-intellectual philosophy is not convincing.

[–] Zensate@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Of course, when you call people psycopath it's not an insult, but if someone else were to say it to you, it would be.

And it's like this with everything, isn't it? But you're the good guy.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago

First, I said "sociopath" not "psychopath". There's different connotations. Second, it's a description of a pattern of thought. Because you're saying that the only reason people don't to terrible things to each other is because of the fear of punishment, not some intrinsic internal sense of fairness or social cohesion. Like a sociopath would think, because they don't feel normal emotions or empathy.

"Psychopath" would be an insult but also an accusation of malice or cruelty. I don't think you're cruel. (I think you're high on your own farts, and that's not so much an insult as an observation because you're doing the same kinda shit over in one of the Ed Sheeran threads. You sound like a young 20-something with some 100 level psych classes under your belt, and the one-day-old account screams "my main account got banned".)