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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They can admit their artack on Iran was a dumb (low IQ?) idea and call it off?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Best they can do is brag that they destroyed the rest of the world far worse, by saying oil price and bond collapse is worse elsewhere. "Iran is certain to collapse and make an unconditional surrender any day now, after begging for a deal for the last 5 months" is their only policy.

I predict the US will declare victory and leave after the mid terms instead of holding out until 2028 innauguration. They can't do it now, because even if imminent collapse is a danger, it would be worse for the mid terms if they either followed through on MoU, or just declared victory and left today, with election focused on debate over just how victorious the retreat is, and how much Iran/China gains influence over their former client states in the Gulf.

Iraq troop withdrawals in 2 weeks can be another midterm disaster, as Iran with Iraq deal, could invade Kuwait just in time to expose Trump/US impotence for the mid terms.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I fear its going to be worse. After the midterm, Trump has nothing holding him back and a limited time before congress, with any luck, is democrat controlled. Trump will launch a ground invasion or worse nuke Iran. Things get much worse and he can point the finger at dems saying its their fault since it didnt happen until they were elected. Trump then runs for his 3rd term because who is actually gonna stop him?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't dismiss this fear on the basis of Trump's sanity, but I dismiss it on not achieving any victory and causing massive international blowback among allies and adversaries. A nuclear attack does not stop Iran retaliations (oil reaching $150-300 with world looking to China for answers). 100 nuclear attacks doesn't stop retaliation and causes permanent regional/global pollution. The forces that stopped him from ending civilization in April were not mid terms, and are the same after mid terms. Impotence and a global rallying cry against naziism. Losing this war and eventual liberation of Ukraine regions, was preplanned in managing rivals red lines.

It's actually very easy for Trump to declare victory and leave. "Any Dumocrat traitor that says we should have a forever war instead of this great victory, is just yet another Biden forever war stooge, that wants to destroy America with trans in women sport. Only a third term can stop their madness"

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Donnie dumbass has too much narcissism to admit that he was at fault; I guess he'd have to blame Pete and/or Marco and/or Vance (yeah, yeah, Vance supposedly set up himself up as "distancing" himself from it in order to run in 2028, but seriously, in donnie's base who are they going to believe - the awkward couch-fucker and Thiel cut-out, or their golden god emperor?) and then throw them under the bus, I suppose.

Even with that, now that Iran knows they can put the squeeze on donnie, they are not likely to let donnie have low oil prices.