Unpopular Opinion
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How voting works:
Vote the opposite of the norm.
If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.
Guidelines:
Tag your post, if possible (not required)
- If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
- If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].
Rules:
1. NO POLITICS
Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.
2. Be civil.
Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...
Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.
5. No trolling.
This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.
6. Defend your opinion
This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.
Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
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PieFed users: if you don’t want to see any AI generated images, go to https://piefed.social/user/settings/filters and set the “AI-generated posts” setting accordingly. Also if you see a slop image without an 'AI' tag, report it.
No need to abuse the poster about it.
https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta@piefed.social/p/2304120/piefed-1-7-12-detects-ai-generated-images
How does one know if it's an AI image?
AI images include some special metadata in the file. It works sometimes!
Some AI providers add that metadata, yes. It's what piefed searches for with its automatic filters. But metadata can be stripped, or not added at all in the first place.
My avatar image is AI-generated, for example. I did it using local AI models, edited it with image editing tools, converted formats, and so forth. I doubt it's got anything the automated filters would recognize on it. If I didn't tell you its pedigree would you know to report it? What if it actually isn't AI generated after all, how can your report be tested for accuracy? That's the sort of problem that OP is calling out here.
it doesnt need to catch 100% of cases
False positives are fine?
Some artist spends days working on some bit of art, posts it, gets the scarlet letters "AI" hung around their neck and now they not only have that particular post taken down they're a "suspect" from then onward.
Yes it is fine. Posting is not a critical thing. If its falsely flagged they can submit a report to the mods to get it removed and everyone continues living.
Ah yes, mods are famously level-headed and will take the word of the person objecting to their actions. Same with the general commenter population of art communities.
well the alternative is no solution and those same people needing to make more decisions. So whats better mod review for 1 or two posts or mod/commentor review of all posts? If you cant accept false positives from this system the false positives from the community review must be unacceptable.
Yup, that's what both I and OP are saying. This is not something that can be "solved" and this attempt at solving it is causing net negatives.
It causes far less negatives than doing nothing.
When automated detection fails then it's up to people to manually report it and mods / admins to manually apply the label.
I was talking about screening and reporting posts and you've moved to profile pics for some reason?
Which is not reliable, and which therefore leads to the witch-hunting problem.
Whether an image actually is AI and whether some random person thinks it "looks" AI are not always in alignment. Especially considering that "is AI" has shades of grey too, given that lots of images are made using AI tools for only some aspects. And even "AI tool" is open to interpretation.
It was just an example of an AI-generated image that I could point to that I'm quite sure doesn't have any special metadata attached to it. If for no other reason than I generated it years ago.