Flippanarchy
Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation.
Post humorous takes on capitalism and the states which prop it up. Memes, shitposting, screenshots of humorous good takes, discussions making fun of some reactionary online, it all works.
This community is anarchist-flavored. Reactionary takes won't be tolerated.
Don't take yourselves too seriously. Serious posts go to !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Rules
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If you post images with text, endeavour to provide the alt-text
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If the image is a crosspost from an OP, Provide the source.
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Absolutely no right-wing jokes. This includes "Anarcho"-Capitalist concepts.
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Absolutely no redfash jokes. This includes anything that props up the capitalist ruling classes pretending to be communists.
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No bigotry whatsoever. See instance rules.
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This is an anarchist comm. You don't have to be an anarchist to post, but you should at least understand what anarchism actually is. We're not here to educate you.
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No shaming people for being anti-electoralism. This should be obvious from the above point but apparently we need to make it obvious to the turbolibs who can't control themselves. You have the rest of lemmy to moralize.
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You claim you don't believe in copyright and that you aren't in favor or it yet you keep calling copyright violations stealing. I find this really funny and hypocritical. Apologizing for the status quo certainly isn't saving anyone. It's called being a liberal. You aren't special in that regard. There's thousands of other liberals just like you apologizing for things as they are.
You miss the point. I would call it stealing if copyright didn't exist, because it is taking the livelihood from artists. If they had their livelihood taken care of, say under a communist system, I wouldn't care.
But you pretending capitalism doesn't exist for them isn't Leftist, it's just delusional.
Also, you calling me a liberal and a hypocrite while you shill for billionaire-controlled AI is rich. Your insults mean nothing, because I see what makes you cheer.
Copying data is not stealing period. Making a copy of 1s and 0s does not deprive people of the work. You cannot steal art online the way someone can steal a painting. This idea of ownership of ideas is insulting to the idea of art. It turns it into a commodity to be sold. Not something to be enjoyed. Real freedom loving anarchist aren't ya...
Explain to me how I "shill for billionare AI controlled by the rich"? The only thing you've shown me so far is that, you apologize for capitalism because of the way things are, which is liberal apologia by definition. And that you dislike AI so you claim that I'm supporting AI companies without actually describing how I'm doing that by use of local stable diffusion models with no subscriptions or ties back to big tech companies.
Would love to hear a real explanation but I doubt I'll get one, this reeks of the same anti-AI brain rot people from Fuck_AI vomit at me and db0 users constantly. AKA people saying I suck Sam Altman's dick. Which is funny because I can't stand Sam Altman or OpenAI.
Is fitting because that is 100% how you are acting. Anarchism isn't like Gender, you don't get to just identify as an anarchist and belay the meaning of what it stands for without people calling you out. Anarchists do not apologize for copyright and ownership of ideas. Ancaps do, but most of us don't consider them anarchists because they're just capitalist libertarians masquerading as anarchists.
In all fairness an argument could be made that using generated images feeds the hype capitalists create around "AI". eg. "Look even anarchists are using it". Obviously they completely ignore the anti-capitalist sentiment or the fact that the models were running on local hardware.
However I don't really think this matters, Our corner of the internet is small and no-one is going to subscribe to gemini because they saw some artwork generated here. Although I guess posting "This was made with locally. Fuck Corporations." below every post wouldn't hurt.
I never said it did, and it is baffling that you think that's my argument. I don't really fucking care about the data. I care that people are fairly compensated for their work, whatever "fair" means relative to the economic system. Under communism or Democratic Confederalism, that's taken care of by the community's collective work. Under socialism, that's taken care of by something like UBI. Under capitalism, that's supposed to be taken care of solely by The Market™. We have the last one, and the 1's and 0's and their relative scarcity is what gives them Market™ value. Copying reduces scarcity, thereby reducing the value and compensation that artists should be getting.
You don't have to like it for this to still be people's material reality that they must work with right now.
Of course it's insulting. This isn't about copying, it's about ensuring people can eat while stuck in capitalism. Let me say it plainly so you can understand: Capitalism sucks, I don't like it, and neither do you. It does not suddenly stop ceasing to affect people just because a relative few people reject it.
I imagine you still have a job, because you, too, need to buy food and pay rent. You don't defeat capitalism by covering your eyes and pretending it's not there.
You act as if copying exists in a vacuum, and pirating doesn't produce harm. Both are false, so the question is: who are you harming? Corporations? Great, sign me the fuck up. Regular people like artists? You're doing the dirty work of capitalists. They love to see us fighting amongst ourselves, and stealing from each other is just another way to do that.
And so it's not just 1's and 0's when it comes to art (again, in this capitalist's wet dream, because you seem to have trouble remembering context). That's what AI apologists and pirates tell themselves so they don't have to feel bad about stealing an artist's livelihood. It's right up there with, "It's just leveling the playing field," as if artists are some elite group hoarding a skill and not craftsman who have honed their skill for years.
Where did your models come from? Who trained them, and with what data? If it was via the mass copying of artists' work without their consent, then you are fine with using models trained upon stolen work, just like the billionaires who created it.
Just like the billionaires who are practically begging everyone to use AI. And yet here you are, "running your own local models," as if normalization isn't part of billionaires' strategy. You do exactly what they want like a good little pawn, and you don't even realize it.
"No True Scotsman" harder. Anarchists aren't a monolith with one ideology, and you aren't the gatekeeper of Anarchism. I have no idea what you think anarchists are, but some of us realize the consequences of our actions, because we care what those consequences are. Anarchists like you seem to only care about yourselves and what you can get. "Fuck you, got mine." Now which ideology thinks like that...?
If every anarchist thought and acted like you, we'd never have systems like Democratic Confederalism or commun(al)ism, because we'd be too busy fucking each other over to actually achieve what we want.
Accepting that capitalism is right in front of us is not apologia, it's accepting reality, and it's a fact that we have to contend with.