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I have to say, this whole Iran war thing has really opened my eyes to what is going on. Because we spend nearly $1T a year on our military, my assumption was that there was no military objective we couldn't meet. Pretty much take on the rest of the world if necessary, since we spend nearly as much as the rest of the world combined.
Then they light off a bunch of stuff in Iran and everyone is like, "welp, we're out." Really? That fast? Guess all of that money was getting stolen as well. I should have known.
The Military Industrial Complex is a giant scam that funnels American taxpayer's money to corporations and their billionaire owners. This video explains it in way more detail: https://youtu.be/T9IV09cvXx4
I remember back in those halcyon days of 2022, watching Ukranian farmers steal russian tanks, and thinking "Boy, it would be funny if the US had the same corruption problems".
Oops.
A big difference with this bullshit is that it's not really being fought as a war. These chucklefucks thought they could just go in, drop some bombs, fire some missiles, and that Iran would capitulate for some reason.
So it's not even the full might of the US military, it's just firing and depleting expensive ranged weapons and wondering why you aren't getting the outcomes you wanted.
So aside from nukes, the US can't bring it's full might to bear against Iran. Even ignoring all the damage Iran has done to bases in the region the US simply can't project it's military like it used to. The logistics and supply systems have been hollowed and enshitified as fodder for capital. And now big tech is practically stripping the last of the copper wire out.
I mean, that is what the us have done since Korea to some degree. Its not like they "won" Afghanistan or Iraq or Vietnam or really any not war wars.
This sounds like the same sort of cope you hear about russia "not yet sending the real troops yet". I mean, this is the full might of the us military. They can't even put boots on the ground (they would get chewed up), have run out of a lot of munitions, lost all bases anywhere near by and are failing to even properly supply and rotate out the naval forces in theater. Out side of glassing the middle east what do you expect them to do? Build escort ships? The us can't wage conventional war worth shit anymore.
But it shouldn't even be close for the money we've spent. Bush's little adventure cost $15T.
I, an absolutely under-informed commenter, tend to agree. My impression is that the U.S. military is a pretty fearsome beast whose specific civilian leaders at the moment are witless, corrupt fools. If competent leadership were interested in the results this administration said they would get, it could presumably be done. Or at least something roughly approximating it.
Besides leadership you also need to account for the fact that, for better or worse, WW2 & 9-11 united both military and civilian logistics against a commom goal with international support. It made for brutal efficiency anywhere on the planet and gave rise to all the memes we know of now.
By contrast, this orange shitstain has fucked the economy, civilians, geopolitics, and most importantly the international logistics to project that military power in a way that isn't a complete embarrassment. Even if a competent progressive leader replaced him, this can't be fixed in a single term either and that is by intentional design of the Heritage Foundation that instructs Trump's actions under the derangement.
I mean the us won one of those conflicts sure.... not sure you want to be talking about the "success" of the war on terror...
Hence why I explicitly avoided the word "success". Despite the many controversies, logistics kept the War on Terror going far longer than it ever needed to. Bush burned a lot of trust and support for war, but the military complex arguably remained fully functional throughout.
Hey! We won Iraq. All that oil is now under us corporate control.
Never did find any wmds. A few hundred thousand dead.
But hey, look at them stock prices, not to mention all those sweet no bid defense contacts. I'd say capitalism won the day there.
Yeah, but think of the shareholders profiting from all that war!