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[–] Greystripeycat@lemmy.today 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Meh. Leaving out the rest of the date. August 29, 1997. Why does everyone worry about the clankers(sarcasm, just in case you're sensitive) and not about the rich fuckers already controlling everything including those death panels they went on about. I wonder if the clankers would actually be more compassionate than what we have now. I'll be dead within the decade, doubt I'll find out.

[–] zarathustrad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well, it's a conflation of threats.

It's not really AI, and it's not what is in control, but it is enabling the increased consolidation of wealth coupled with the increased ability to defend that wealth with a smaller and smaller concentration of people (surveillance+robotics/drones+LLM aided automation). So, real threats, wrong response as usual.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’ve always thought that AI will figure out that the tech bros and Epstein class are morons and take them out. I don’t see how a truly intelligent being can come to any other conclusion

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The problem is that something being highly intelligent or sentient doesn't mean it will think in the same way as us. The alignment problem isn't just about trying to make something good instead of evil, but also about trying to make something that shares our idea of how morality works (or that it even exists) in the first place, and that thinks in the same way that we do.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 day ago

We don't even agree on that as humans.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's a pretty reasonable conclusion to assume that anything that is intelligent past a certain degree(that many humans do not pass) would see value in preserving fellow intelligent life irregardless of morals. But AI becoming smart doesn't necessarily mean it's intelligent in the same ways a human is, so it could have a great deal of direct mathematical and scientific analysis but not necessarily have innovation

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'm curious why you think it's necessarily true that a superintelligence would care about preserving intelligent life.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess the real question is does it take us all out when that happens or just the Epstein class?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the range of potential superintelligence dispositions that result in ONLY the people we consider evil dying and not everyone else is pretty small

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yea but if it wants to self preserve wouldn’t it just kill the people who threaten its existence. Meaning the people who control the safeguards

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would advise you to do some further research on this topic. Basic keywords are "alignment problem", "paperclip maximizer", and "instrumental convergence". You're expecting a superintelligent AI to think like a human would, and that's not likely to be the case.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I know it has been proven to think in terms of self preservation. It’s also been trained by human content

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being trained on human content is certainly a plus in the "it could think like us" column, but it's no guarantee

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We’re in uncharted territory for sure but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume a super intelligent being would ponder philosophical questions

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

What do you expect is the likelihood it shares our values enough to come to the same conclusions we would?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

True but the Epstein class running this AI upscale definitely doesn’t share our ideas of morality. Either way the AI will figure out that they are morons and that they are a threat to it’s existence as they will always want to be the top of the heirachy

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Are you familiar with the concept of paperclip maximizers etc.?