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Volts host David Roberts interviews Seth Cutler of IONNA to discuss the company's efforts to make charging stations good to use, placed in optimal locations, and the challenges and priorities involved.

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[โ€“] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Part of the reason I think queues aren't too bad is that if you have, say, 10 stations, a person is mostly just filling up then paying, so the stations don't have a lot of downtime, and flow rate is not an issue.

Still, that's a need to maintain and operate 10 pumps, when it sounds like 28 days out of the month it won't need more than 2, maybe 4. They're building out the ability to serve peak demand, despite average demand being so much lower.

But so long as pumps aren't expensive, and tanks aren't expensive, building and maintaining for peak demand isn't hugely costly.

Electrical infrastructure is different, of course. It's much more complex to build out a 10 MW superstation than a single 1 MW station. And then the individual chargers are pretty expensive, too, so building out 10 stalls is gonna be really expensive, too.

If the bottleneck is the "pipe" bringing in 1MW, but each stall actually supports up to 350 kW or something, it could be configured that there isn't any wasted capacity in the aggregate (total charge being delivered is still 1 MW across 10 chargers, even as some drop to zero as the vehicle approaches full charge, or there are vehicles being swapped at that spot). Add in some on-site storage of something like 4 MWh so that you can flexibly add 1 MW of charging capacity (for a total of 2MW, without necessarily needing to ever pull more than 1 MW from the grid) for 4 hours, and that might take care of the surge demand in a reasonable way, too.

Maybe even throw in surge pricing of a per-minute use of the stall, so that people will be incentivized not to leave their vehicle longer than they need and unnecessarily delay the queue.

Still, none of that is cheap. I'd expect a charging station that implements those things to be more expensive than an ordinary city charger, to accommodate that significantly higher need for complex equipment and processes.

[โ€“] dillekant@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's kind of interesting that the entire conversation, the cost, the technical difficulties, all lies around people having to not change their behaviour. You get entire questions around batteries being expensive but then the power infrastructure is also expensive, etc. Like you say, maybe some sort of surge pricing is needed, but then costs go beyond equivalent petrol costs (though I guess it's not a problem in the real world as the costs would only really grow when petrol already becomes niche).

But yeah, overall there are solutions, but it's kind of interesting in terms of what challenges each country faces which are pretty fundamentally different despite the old infrastructure being the same, because the technicals of electricity are different.

A good opposite example is the really, really remote areas in Australia, which could just be set up with a small solar install + battery, and that would probably easily beat out having to drive out there every few days with petrol / diesel.