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[–] Mardukas@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You're right, and I did. To me the 8.8% cited in the reference used in this article seems pretty vague. This number relates to women's health defined as "[...] includ[ing] diseases and conditions that are sex specific or affect women and men differently or disproportionately, [...]". So this particular work does not really say that men are particularly favoured here. However, they do cite another article by Arthur Mirin (DOI: 10.1089/jwh.1029.8682) which stated as of 2021:

Not only are there almost three times as many male-favoured diseases as female-favoured diseases, but the the degree of funding disparity for the male-favoured diseases (extent to which male-dominant diseases are overfunded and female-dominant diseases are underfunded) is nearly twice as large as that for female-favoured diseases.

To me, these numbers give ordinary people a much better view of the problem, I would say. The 8.8% likely makes much more sense to experts within the field and I never meant to oppose that. It was simply difficult to make sense of within the scope of the article.

Also, whether or not there are references in the article is completely irrelevant to my criticism about the author being unclear as of what point they were trying to make with their piece. They simultaneously claim that healthcare should be allocated more equally and depending on the gender specific needs. It reads like rage-bait.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Also, whether or not there are references in the article is completely irrelevant to my criticism about the author being unclear as of what point they were trying to make with their piece.

How is it unclear? Women's health should be studied more than it is currently.

They simultaneously claim that healthcare should be allocated more equally and depending on the gender specific needs.

Those aren't mutually exclusive claims.

[–] Mardukas@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No they aren't mutually exclusive, that's true. But if women-only research funding is below 10%, this says nothing about male-only funding. From what I could find that majority of funding goes to research that is gender agnostic. The problem seems to be that when gender specific funding is warranted, male-specific conditions seemed to get more attention than made sense. If the goal is to have equality in healthcare, is this not promising?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

From what I could find that majority of funding goes to research that is gender agnostic.

Our bodies are not gender agnostic though. That research is predicated on male bodies.

[–] Mardukas@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No not really. Whilst it may not be gender agnostic, including both men and women does not make research for male bodies. Sure, historically this has been a problem and this is why it became a requirement to include women in the 90's, who h is mentioned in the article.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I can't hold your hand through this anymore. You're being willfully obtuse about this.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just because you're enraged doesn't make it bait. As a number of the references and the article makes clear, it's about allocating resources equitably. Equitable!=Equal.