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Also, petro is masculine, solar and wind: gay and feminine.
What is more masculine than harvesting the biggest available energy source in the solar system? Or extracting energy out of the movement of air like a Wizard? Using long dead microorganisms feels pretty mundane in comparison.
Nope: drilling into the ground and pumping it out so you can "roll coal" on bikers and hybrids/EVs - heroic and manly, obvs.
Harvesting wind and solar: means UR GAY.
I'm of course kidding, but for a whole lot of men (and toxic women) they are dead serious about this kind of thing.
I remember one of my roommates pointedly throwing an aluminum can into the trashcan with about ten people in the kitchen with him - when the recycling bin was right there - it was butted up next to the trash can. It was not about effort.
When either myself or someone else asked him - uh, WTF, man? His response, not even kidding: "Recycling?!!! I'm not a F__!" I mean, this was the mid-90s and recycling was slowly creeping into daily life, but even then, there was kind of this general expectation that everyone is part of society and we have exactly one planet, and this kind of casual homophobia was not exactly embraced in most circles even back then.
But this guy was so worried he might be perceived as womanly or gay over giving a shit about the environment...
This is such a sad story. So many men do not realize what patriachism is doing to them, making them behave like idiots and morons. It's also the source of why these men are so scared of being perceived as anything else than super-masc.
Patriarchism hurts everyone, not just women or the LGBT community. The expected behaviours are also violent against everyone who cares about their environment at large.
Also, it seems like a certain kind of man spends so much time on obsessing over this kind of thing. I just don't get how someone can possibly have the time or energy for such nonsense, though I've definitely had these types in my life in high school and in college.
But seeing someone like Jesse Watters clutching his pearls with his "rules for men" is so wild that I sometimes wonder if he's not really something like a Sacha Baron Cohen character doing a very long con.
I mean, telling men they cannot cross their legs, or drink soup or use straws in public? Is he serious with that shit? If Jesse Watters was someone in my life, I'd go out of my way to do all three in front of him. Maybe I'd drink soup through a straw, while crossing my legs, LOL.
Same goes for what I hear about some of the younger "influencers" telling a bunch of young men/teenagers how to be men...it borders on the comical, but I think it's also quite dangerous to our culture.
I have to agree, and want to add to you last paragraph.
The "influencers" are only able to spread their bullshit because we left young men behind somewhere 20 years ago in feminism. I agree that feminism should be primarily about women, but most of feminism did never think about what role young men should strive towards when patriarchism is dismantled. We now have a situation where feminism was able to improve the situation of women somewhat, but it also created a lot of uncertainty in young men who feel that they now have no place in a society that often is prejudicial against them because it is expected that they behave just as bad as the previous generations. This opens up an opportunity for the worst of humanity, coming from the right wing - they are filling their minds with misogynist and anti-LGBT ideas to give them an identity that they are missing because the previous push against patriarchism offered no alternative to them.
The next wave of feminism should take that as a lesson: you can't just dismantle a system without offering the participants of that system a worthwhile position in the new system, or they will refuse your system - often violently.
Wow, this is so very well said. It's hard to thread this needle, because even when you state it as well as you do, you'll sometimes have people getting their back up about how you are "centering" males and so on. It's not about centering any one group (to me), it's about trying to push things forward without leaving anyone behind.
Oh, and for a minute there, I thought you were responding to this: https://lemmy.world/post/50415802/25191138
Oh you are right, my comment fits there perfectly too lol