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[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

All this effort going towards “saving” green fascism when we should be pouring these efforts into Linux

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

That's great and all but the current linux phone offerings are... not suitable for general public use. The iPad generation will simply not be able to use them in their current state.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Historically the most technically inclined are always the first to a “new” technology. I don’t see why this round should be any different a the ipad generation will come when it’s their time.

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

We were so close to a phone usable by non-enthusiasts with the Nokia N1. The Nokia Linux phones were killed when Nokia hired a former VP at Microsoft to be their CEO. I'm still bitter.

[–] DosDude@retrofed.com 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Jolla, ex nokia employees, just sent out their first batch of the Jolla phone. It uses sailfishOS, a Linux based operating system capable of running android apps.

I'm in the wait list for my own.

[–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately not available for in the US :(

I want one so badly

[–] DeathByDenim@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

I'm in Canada. I got myself a Sony Xperia and bought a Sailfish licence for it so I could get the Waydroid integration and predictive text keyboard. Works pretty well. So if you are interested in the OS rather than the hardware, that could be a route to go.

Technically, the licence is not for sale in Canada (or US), but meh, it did work at the time. Probably still does.

Anyway, I quite enjoy Sailfish. Been using it for about 4 years now or thereabouts. There's a fair number of native apps, especially with Chum and Storeman. With Waydroid, many Android apps work too, though definitely not all.

[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 2 points 19 hours ago

@DosDude @NotEasyBeingGreen The fun thing about this whole saga is that there's linux phone stack stuff that's been completely neglected for the past ~15 years that we're now having to bring back to functionality because of projects taking up pieces of maemo/meego.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There's diminishing returns, and we have lives outside our phones. Well, most of us. We can put a limited amount of time and energy into this, but pushing Linux requires a great deal of effort and time.

Not saying we shouldn't also do that, but in the mean time fighting to keep the options we do have less shitty shouldn't be completely abandoned.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You’re right. The green fascists will probably change their minds and just be cool about this.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You're right, we should just roll over instead of fighting for a better future.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

My original comment’s point was we should push as hard as we can into Linux and abandon green fascism all together

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

And my point was that putting all your eggs in one basket, especially if they're not even laid yet, is foolhardy.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud -1 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

You do know that android is Linux under the hood right?

So we have a Linux phone now, it's just got a crappy front end on it

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh cool so nothing to worry about then. You’re safe from the fascists coming to take your phone in that case…

…right?

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh you still need to ditch android, as Google is going the way of apple. Not sure what I will do for a new phone right now.

But as android has a Linux kernel, the amount of Linux things is amazing

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

There we are. Pedantry aside, welcome back to the conversation

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

It's Linux-ish under the hood really. No Android device I'm aware of is running the vanilla kernel.

[–] garbage_world@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If android is linux, watchOS is unix