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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

You know, I agree that the world would be a better place without Meta and its platforms.

But if governments can do things like this to Meta, they can do it to anyone else too, even to fediverse instances; will admins of instances here be sued next because minors liked to use them too much and they/parents/schools/governments claim those instances are "addictive"? Not looking forward to that world.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 17 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Fortunately, there's a big difference between Lemmy and Meta social media: no algorithms. Similarly to how reddit worked years ago, you have a page you cater to your needs that displays content based on numeric popularity, not because an algorithm deemed the content to be worth showing. I doubt there'd be much to argue with in court based on that premise alone.

[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

How does Lemmy decide what to display on my front page? I'm not too familiar with that.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Yeah good question, also it would be nice to have like a disinterested button so I could hide items instead of being shown them over and over again. I do tend to go to my all or local page and sort by top for the last 12 hours to get a better mix

[–] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'd imagine it's upvotes and time based, which to me sounds like an algorithm. I recognize it as a better and more fair algorithm but idk how it would be argued in court as being different. But I would love to learn with you.

[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like exactly the same thing Reddit does

[–] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think reddit does that anymore.

[–] Fleezy419@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

I think they still do for r/all but you can't even access it on mobile, it has to be your personalized feed tooled for maximum engagement.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 hours ago

There are always algorithms. You literally can't make software without them. As far as algorithms for choosing which content is displayed, Lemmy still has to have one of those to weight votes vs. age. Is a post that's +50/-0 from five minutes ago the best to show you, or the one that's +400/-100 from an hour ago, or the one that's +1000/-100 from last year?

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone can bring a lawsuit, I don’t see how this would translate to government overreach like you suggest. It’s already illegal to target and harm kids. META got caught doing it. IF a lemmy instance is also doing it I’m fine with them being shut down and fined with similar evidence as is being presented against facebook (loads of internal documents explicitly outlining their strategy, not to mention multiple whistleblowers over the years).

[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm on a lemmy instance dedicated to copyright infringement. Its already been around for years. You have to get quite big to get the government's intention. Also the site Myrient was just doing endless copyright infringement for years and shut down because it ran out of money, not because the government caught it.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Like dedicated to doing copyright infringement? Or like stopping it?

[–] pmk@piefed.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Encouraging it. "Be Weird, Download a Car, Generate Art, Screw Copyrights, Do Maths"

[–] ProbablyUnwise@anarchist.nexus 7 points 11 hours ago

Well if there's a fediverse instance methodically and intentionally targeting children, then I think they absolutely deserve to be destroyed. Fortunately, all instances have the ability to defederate, so we don't need the government to end association with such terrible people.