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Sadly, but ml instance has also communities that are focused on non-political themes like tech stuff, so for now it has sense to block each community on ml except the normal ones.
yea i noticed that, its the ml accounts that participate in those politics are the problems.
I haven't really missed any tech stuff although I am subscribed to zero .ml comms.
There's enough activity in the sane parts of the Forumverse.
The "normal" ones are also affected.
Whoah... The situation is even worse than I originally thought.
Blocking all ML is the best solution. They offer nothing
Okay, taking into account that many people here are longer than me and are actually seem to be solid right, why instances then don't simply defederate themselves from ml? Like they have done it with hexbear instance?
The Lemmy developers created .ml making it the "flagship" instance and giving it a high user count unrelated to it's politics. I've also seen some people express fear of some sort of retribution if they defederate from ml, but I personally think that's a bit overblown
Oh the retribution is real. ML are disgraceful humans. But they’ve got accounts on every instance, so the only thing an ml defed would accomplish is fragmentation.
A few have, but it's been brought up before
Some don't want to because it's a "flagship" instance and ther fore has many old comms on it (But on that note, it's only by subscriber count, which never goes down unless a user actually unsubscribes from a comm, so .ml memes might have 50k subscribers, but the absolute vast majority of that is gonna be dead, deleted and maybe even alt accounts, if we go by Monthly Active User metrics like off of lemmyverse.net you'll see that very very few .ml comms still beat their non-ml equivalent.)
Some don't because of fear of retribution from dessalines or at the very least "slow walking" of any issues that might come up, not likely to happen with smaller instances. But if you're as big as say .world, then that could be a potentially huge problem and would be the exact kind of instance dessalines would choose to flex this retribution on as a message.
Some don't because they prefer to have their users decide for themselves (e.g. dbzer0.com) or have an alternative such as lemmy.zip's default block which block the whole triad for new users. Which is fair, there should be instances on the Threadiverse that are unfiltered for uh "Politically thick skinned users" but they should not be put forth to prospective users from Threadiverse advocates looking to bring users from reddit.
And then there are some that do, infosec.pub and Lemmy.cafe are the 2 that come to mind, but I'm sure there are more
Thanks for the info.
Some do. More should.
Many have.
Or, for every community that lacks a mirror on a sane instance, create one.
Well, until these mirrors are created my statement is valid, I guess.
There's a mirror for nearly every .ml comm of note, and in a lot of cases a few different mirrors across a bunch of instances.
For example, linux (in order of size) has !linux@lemmy.world and !linux@programming.dev and !linux@sh.itjust.works and !linux@sopuli.xyz and !linux@discuss.tchncs.de
I also crosspost all (good) .ml content to drive comm activity off .ml to non-ml equivalent comms and whenever I do encounter one that doesn't have a non-mo equivalent I make one
So lmk what .ml comms you peruse and I'll tell you the closest non-ml version or I'll make it myself if it has recent activity or you could also use Lemmyverse.net which is a fantastic tool for Threadiverse comm discovery
Okay, thanks.
Doing gods work man. Let them live in their cesspool alone! Alone and bitter
Be the change you want to see in the world.
You can say the same about 4chan, it's not a great defense.
Well... I suppose that I just made a rookie mistake of giving some chances to ML.