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[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

German here. Is there any real image of the tattoo anywhere? I could only find some images with a big black blob.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)


Also it's not like he denied having it, he for sure had a Totenkopf-tattoo that he put a "celtic knot" over.

https://jewishinsider.com/2025/10/graham-platner-ss-tattoo-maine-senate/

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The issue with this kind of stuff is history. As a 40 you’re old American, whose grandfather served in World War II, I had no idea what that tattoo meant before this whole scandal.

The only symbolism we ever went over in school was the flag and swastika. I believe they thought dumb kids would mimic the iconography to look edgy.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, I keep saying this but idiots keep telling me I must have been a dumbass not to recognize it. I told them to show me a single screenshot of this symbol appearing in any media that depicts nazis or WWII and they couldn't provide one, they just kept deflecting and calling me a dumbass.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh great, you've proven that there's a wikipedia article for it. This is proof that anyone who hasn't already stumbled upon it by chance is clearly a willfully ignorant nazi! /s

The only reason you're even linking it now is because we're already discussing it. My whole point is that hardly anybody knew what this symbol was prior to the discussion around Platner.

Now find a movie, TV show, book, comic, or video game that depicts that symbol on a nazi. Because that's what I meant from the start and you know it.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Read my other comments. I link this because this is the only real source, and for reference. A German! Wikipedia article.

No, nobody was an idiot for not seeing this, most Germans would not know that this was a Nazi symbol. And wearing those symbols is illegal here.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

I see. Thanks for clarifying

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I fully admit I am not the smartest or best student of history. However I recall no lessons un symbolism in any history class other than ancient Egypt and Neolithic era or late Stone Age.

Make not mistake I am not supporting any hatred other than towards Nazis. However when I first saw the image I honestly thought it was from Warhammer or something.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I thought it looked tacky and stupid. I wouldn't have gotten it myself. But I also didn't know it was a nazi symbol until I read about it in the context of platner. Never would have guessed.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I love how the main defense is "bro we all are so ignorant about history that we don't know one of the most recognizable symbols of the nazis, but trust, we can definitely tell this guy isn't one"

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I think you’re missing my point. And YES, I just told you it wasn’t part of my history lessons. Are you based in the U.S.? If so, eastern, western, north, south, midwest? They all have different types of history being taught in school. For example, in the southeast there was a much bigger unit on trail of tears than in the Midwest. Also I bet if I asked you the name of the fertility statue from the Paleolithic you wouldn’t know it because it wasn’t part of your history lessons. Clearly that version of the totenkopf image was part of your history lessons or part of your history.

If you asked me what skull a bones together mean I would have said pirates and I would have been right because that’s the version of totenkopf I know. As I have now done a quick read on Wikipedia I must disagree with you about it be one of the most recognized symbols. How can it be one of the more recognized symbols if the main use was in concentration camps. They weren’t flying it all over or even putting it on all the uniforms. So yes, please accept that many people don’t know it.

Also no I didn’t say “ohh no this guy is totally not a nazi” but by all means put words in people’s mouth and ignore what they’re saying as it seems you do constantly. What I’m saying is most people I know, don’t know that symbol and thus can readily believe he didn’t know either. Thus the issue with pointing to it and saying “see this guys a nazi” is history lessons. If you’re going to point to shit, point to his words and comments not a tattoo.

Am I going to go dive into this guys Reddit history and learn about him, no. I will not be voting for him and I won’t be voting for his opponent. Not my area and thus I don’t need to go learn all the shit about him.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok, after some closer look, it could resemble the SS "Mützenabzeichen", but it could also just be a generic skull.

BTW, the British atme are no nazis are they? https://www.army.mod.uk/learn-and-explore/about-the-army/corps-regiments-and-units/royal-armoured-corps/royal-lancers/

I can not say what exactly that tattoo was there is no clear image I found, so I can not jump to conclusions in any direction.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He doesn't even deny it though?? He confirmed it was a totenkopf in interviews with cenk uygur for example. Good god, the amount of proof you all require to confirm that the tattoo of a guy defending people getting SS doppelrune tattoos, goes on murder spree's in west asia and sexually assaults women matches the SS Totenkopf just to confirm that what? He actually is a piece of shit??

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I do not need nothing.

Why should I care? I want to understand, that's all. Maybe just read my other comments..

And, maybe you should read the fucking comments of him defending the SS dudes. He is not a nazi. He is just as stupid as one.

On the rape, no idea. Of course, believe women and investigate, but still, assumption of innocence holds.

But after all, America vote a class of Nazis and Neop Babies into power. A convicted rapist, fraud and openly corrupt man.

But hey, this dude is your biggest problem ATM?

Yeah. Nobody can help America anymore. You are lost

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

read the fucking comments of him defending the SS dudes. He is not a nazi.

read this again but slowly...

On the rape, no idea. Of course, believe women and investigate, but still, assumption of innocence holds.

This not a courtroom?? The guy is running for office?? He should meet higher criteria, like e.g. not "defending the SS dudes"?? Or carelessly lobbing grenades into dense population areas?? Or raping women?? What the fuck??

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And, again you did not read his commwnts, you did not have a look at the deleted comments database

You asshole just echo some sentiment without checking the facts for yourself.

You did not read my other comments ...

This moron called white America racist, around the same time he defended the SS dudes.

He called himself a communist and more.

I did not found anything about him throwing granades, and I DON'T CARE. USA, the land where kids can walk with full automatic weapons in a school and shoot other kids, and all You do is fucking thoughts and prayers.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And, again you did not read his commwnts, you did not have a look at the deleted comments database

I'm the one that dug it out for you! What the hell?

This moron called white America racist, around the same time he defended the SS dudes.

So?? I don't know how confused the guy was vs how much he was just masking but he got a nazi tattoo and went on a rampage with his SS buddies in west asia.

He called himself a communist and more.

And the nazis called themselves "socialist" in order to appeal to a greater mass of people. Actions speak louder than words and nothing this guy said is incongruent with being an ignorant little nazi, whether he acknowledges it or not.

I did not found anything about him throwing granades, and I DON’T CARE.

The platner left in a nutshell

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I don't care because I have no relation to this guy, and honestly, fighting the AfD and our current government is more important for me then some idiot in the USA, that should never have bin put on a ballot in the first place.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you no exit e. V.? A German organization that helps neo nazis to exit the scene? No? Maybe check this.

Bo defending a nazi is not the same as being a Nazi.

Read the fucking comments.

And I said: I don't know.

I never said you can't say what you want.

Now. I am not allowed to thing critical because this is not a courtroom?? WTF?????

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Ja ich kenne exit e.V. keine Ahnung was das hiermit zu tun hat aber ist mir auch egal. Jemand der diese Typen hier verteidigt gehört an die Wand und nicht ins Amt.

Die Unschuldsvermutung bis zum rechtskräftigen Gerichtsurteil ergibt keinen Sinn ausserhalb eines Gerichtssaales. Und wenn es einfach in das Bild passt weil der Typ eh schon als Mörder und Nazi-apologet bekannt ist, es selber zugibt so ein Tattoo gehabt zu haben, was für einen Sinn hat es denn dann noch groß die Pixel zu studieren??

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Gut, wenn du Exit kennst. Dann weiß tdu auch das es genügend menachen gibt die fa Landen weil sie es nicht verstehen was es bedeutet. Ernsthaft, ließ seine Kommentare. Der Typ ist einfach zu blöd es zu verstehen. Der gehört nicht in die Politik. Punkt